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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: rtc-linux@googlegroups.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, devel@laptop.org
Subject: Re: Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:31:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070708223121.GB4964@dmt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707081315.40560.david-b@pacbell.net>

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 01:15:40PM -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> On Sunday 08 July 2007, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 12:17 -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> > > 
> > > I think so ... although that's unfortunately another difference
> > > between the legacy x86-mostly code and the newer RTC framework.
> > 
> > (sorry for hijacking the thread)
> 
> I changed $SUBJECT ...
> 
> 
> > Is this the interface should stuff like HAL use to do:
> > 
> > * Suspend for 10 minutes
> > * auto wakeup and then hibernate...
> 
> That is, "Suspend-to-RAM" or "standby"?  Yes, assuming that works on
> this particular system.  Arguably that would be a direction for
> cpuidle to think about too, but I think alarm-driven wakeup is more
> ready-to-use at this point.
> 
> 
> > I figure we can do a suspend setting the rtc using the ioctls and then
> > we wakeup, and HAL has to know that we woke up from the alarm rather
> > than from a lid event or keypress.

On OLPC hibernate would be suspend-to-disk, but we haven't done any
testing with that yet. It would be necessary to check for available disk
space before attempting it (or reserving space perhaps?).

> ... although I don't know whether that particular distinction is
> made to userspace right now.  ACPI provides a bit like that, and
> at least a few other systems can do something analagous.

Yes, we can poke at registers to find that out.

> That is, we may want to provide a bit more information about the
> specific event which triggered wakeup.  I don't believe there is
> such an interface, in general.

What would be a nice interface? Perhaps an additional file under
/sys/devices/.../power/wakeup_fired or something (only for devices with
can_wakeup set).

> Plus, the notion seems kind of racey to me.  (If you press a key
> right while the wakealarm fires, you don't want hibernation..)

Then you check if the any key or other wakeup event has happened other
than RTC... I don't see any problem with that.

> > Is this something we can do (or should do) for OLPC and general ACPI?
> 
> I'd certainly rather see laptops doing that than what they do now:
> running the battery out, and needing filesystem recovery!!

Yep.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-08 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-30 23:57 Power Mangement Interfaces Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31  0:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  0:21   ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  4:33     ` [linux-pm] " Gopi P.M.
2007-03-31 15:20     ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 16:12     ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 15:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02  7:38     ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-03-31 16:57   ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 16:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 18:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 18:57     ` David Brownell
2007-04-01  1:01       ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-01  3:01         ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 16:56           ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02  0:28             ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 16:55               ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 17:53                 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08  3:46                 ` rtc-cmos not supporting RTC_AIE? Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:26                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:03                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:17                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:31                         ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-08 20:15                           ` Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:31                             ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2007-07-09  2:44                               ` David Brownell
2007-07-09  8:34                                 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-09 15:40                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 16:26                                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-10  2:45                                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 16:51                                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 22:16                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  0:45                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  0:53                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  1:23                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  1:39                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  1:59                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  3:14                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:09                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:14                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:31                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 16:04                                           ` David Brownell
2007-07-11 22:48                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-08  3:49                 ` [PATCH] rtc-cmos: use cmos_rtc_board_info to determine wake_on callback Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:06                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08  3:55                 ` [PATCH] OLPC rtc-cmos support Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:13                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 18:40                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:10                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:17                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 20:47                           ` David Brownell
2007-06-19 17:00               ` Power Mangement Interfaces Marcelo Tosatti
2007-06-19 19:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-19 19:41                 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-06-21  1:30                 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:10                   ` [PATCH] add powerbutton and lid platform devices Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 15:05                     ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-09 16:30                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 16:36                         ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-16  8:51                         ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-16 17:11                       ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-04-02 10:23           ` Power Mangement Interfaces Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 18:24             ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 19:40               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-02 21:31                 ` David Brownell
2007-04-05  8:20               ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 10:07       ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-31 19:14     ` Jim Gettys
2007-04-02  9:36 ` Zhang Rui

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