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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>,
	Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:40:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070709154014.GF27828@dmt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707081944.04598.david-b@pacbell.net>

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 07:44:03PM -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> On Sunday 08 July 2007, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 01:15:40PM -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> > > On Sunday 08 July 2007, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > > 
> > > That is, we may want to provide a bit more information about the
> > > specific event which triggered wakeup.  I don't believe there is
> > > such an interface, in general.
> > 
> > What would be a nice interface? Perhaps an additional file under
> > /sys/devices/.../power/wakeup_fired or something (only for devices with
> > can_wakeup set).
> 
> Better a /sys/power/wakeup_event (or whatever) that's more easily
> found.  It could link to the device issuing the event.

As you mentioned, there might be two wakeup sources (RTC and power
button for instance) or even more at the same time.

Do you think its fine to simply but the device separated by spaces in
the wakeup_event file?

Sounds fine by me, but what about the one-value-per-file sysfs rule?

> > > Plus, the notion seems kind of racey to me.  (If you press a key
> > > right while the wakealarm fires, you don't want hibernation..)
> > 
> > Then you check if the any key or other wakeup event has happened other
> > than RTC... I don't see any problem with that.
> 
> It might be best not to need to re-activate the whole system from
> STR though ... it ought to be possible to just power off, having
> already written the image to disk.  Right?

Perhaps, yes... 

> Yes, there's all that stuff about how to quiesce the system properly,
> freezer/icebox/flamesuits/etc.  Regardless, going from STR to fully
> operational and then hibernating would take time and energy that
> might not be available...

True, that needs to be taken into account.

> - Dave
> 
> 
> > > > Is this something we can do (or should do) for OLPC and general ACPI?
> > > 
> > > I'd certainly rather see laptops doing that than what they do now:
> > > running the battery out, and needing filesystem recovery!!
> > 
> > Yep.
> > 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-09 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-30 23:57 Power Mangement Interfaces Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31  0:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  0:21   ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  4:33     ` [linux-pm] " Gopi P.M.
2007-03-31 15:20     ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 16:12     ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 15:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02  7:38     ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-03-31 16:57   ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 16:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 18:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 18:57     ` David Brownell
2007-04-01  1:01       ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-01  3:01         ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 16:56           ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02  0:28             ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 16:55               ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 17:53                 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08  3:46                 ` rtc-cmos not supporting RTC_AIE? Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:26                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:03                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:17                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:31                         ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-08 20:15                           ` Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:31                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09  2:44                               ` David Brownell
2007-07-09  8:34                                 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-09 15:40                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2007-07-09 16:26                                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-10  2:45                                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 16:51                                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 22:16                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  0:45                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  0:53                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  1:23                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  1:39                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  1:59                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  3:14                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:09                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:14                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:31                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 16:04                                           ` David Brownell
2007-07-11 22:48                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-08  3:49                 ` [PATCH] rtc-cmos: use cmos_rtc_board_info to determine wake_on callback Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:06                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08  3:55                 ` [PATCH] OLPC rtc-cmos support Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:13                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 18:40                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:10                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:17                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 20:47                           ` David Brownell
2007-06-19 17:00               ` Power Mangement Interfaces Marcelo Tosatti
2007-06-19 19:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-19 19:41                 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-06-21  1:30                 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:10                   ` [PATCH] add powerbutton and lid platform devices Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 15:05                     ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-09 16:30                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 16:36                         ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-16  8:51                         ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-16 17:11                       ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-04-02 10:23           ` Power Mangement Interfaces Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 18:24             ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 19:40               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-02 21:31                 ` David Brownell
2007-04-05  8:20               ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 10:07       ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-31 19:14     ` Jim Gettys
2007-04-02  9:36 ` Zhang Rui

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