public inbox for linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ibm-acpi-devel] ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add input device support to hotkey subdriver
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:59:34 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070715205934.GF19066@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070715201201.GA5518@srcf.ucam.org>

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:03:38PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > I do not consider screwing up the mixer handling a harmless result.
> 
> We've shipped in this configuration for over a year. Total number of 
> bugs filed? None. It's not ideal, but it's simply not true that it 
> results in a high level of user confusion or a screwed up mixer.

Well, I got one report.

> > Until then, since the default meaning of *all* KEY_ events are active in
> > nature, I am against the idea of generating events that are to be handled in
> > a passive way, by default.
> 
> That's simply not true. Userspace already interprets the brightness keys 
> differently depending on the hardware type.

*HAL* does.  HAL is *not* all there is to userspace.  The input layer is not
an interface between the kernel and HAL, it is an interface between kernel
and userspace.

Add that knowledge to the input layer, and I will agree.  Add it to every
consumer of input events, and I will concede.  Until then, it is good that
HAL can overcome the lack of such information in the input layer, but that
doesn't make it the right way to use the input layer.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-15 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-14 14:11 [GIT PULL] thinkpad-acpi queue for 2.6.23 (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found] ` <11844223322928-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add DMI-based modalias Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: remove all uneeded initializers Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: update information on T43 thermal sensor 0xc1 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export hotkey maximum masks Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export to sysfs the state of the radio slider switch Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: checkpoint sysfs interface version due to hotkey Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: register input device Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add input device support to hotkey subdriver Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:31     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <20070714223144.GA25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:12         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]           ` <20070715181233.GG14134-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:45             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]               ` <20070715184519.GD3235-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:03                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 20:12                   ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 20:59                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [this message]
2007-07-15 21:04                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:54                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                           ` <20070715215453.GJ19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:45                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16  2:47                               ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-16 15:46                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-16 15:51                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 18:19                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-16 18:37                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add power-management handler capability Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export EV_SW SW_RADIO events Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: checkpoint sysfs interface version due to input layer Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: rename pci HID constant Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:37     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <20070714223713.GC25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:02         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 18:34           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:18             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 21:23               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12   ` pci-ids: add Lenovo PCI vendor ID Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 11:52     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-15 21:22       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: store ThinkPad model information Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: allow use of CMOS NVRAM for brightness control Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: react to Lenovo ThinkPad differences in hot key Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:39     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <20070714223932.GD25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 17:59         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 18:31           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]             ` <20070715183150.GA3235-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:17               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                 ` <20070715201712.GD19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:24                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make sure DSDT TMPx readings don't return +128 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make EC-based thermal readings non-experimental Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12   ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: bump up version to 0.15 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:58   ` [GIT PULL] thinkpad-acpi queue for 2.6.23 (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: enable more hotkeys Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: update CMOS commands documentation Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make the input event mode the default Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:33   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 18:05     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]       ` <20070715180529.GF14134-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:38         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 20:09           ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 20:13             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:14               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                 ` <20070715211421.GG19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 21:19                   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                     ` <20070715211953.GA6527-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:08                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                         ` <20070715220801.GK19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:49                           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16  0:12                             ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                               ` <20070716001239.GA31604-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16  0:24                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16  3:02                                   ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                                     ` <20070716030254.GD31604-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16 15:27                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-16 18:21                                         ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad_acpi: use bool for boolean parameters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20070715205934.GF19066@khazad-dum.debian.net \
    --to=hmh@hmh.eng.br \
    --cc=dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com \
    --cc=hughsient@gmail.com \
    --cc=ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=lenb@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox