From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ibm-acpi-devel] ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add input device support to hotkey subdriver
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:04:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070715210405.GA6216@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070715205934.GF19066@khazad-dum.debian.net>
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:59:34PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> *HAL* does. HAL is *not* all there is to userspace. The input layer is not
> an interface between the kernel and HAL, it is an interface between kernel
> and userspace.
Hal is the only piece of userspace that knows how to speak to more than
one type of backlight in any useful way, which makes it the de-facto
reference for how userspace interprets these keys.
> Add that knowledge to the input layer, and I will agree. Add it to every
> consumer of input events, and I will concede. Until then, it is good that
> HAL can overcome the lack of such information in the input layer, but that
> doesn't make it the right way to use the input layer.
The fact that keys share event codes doesn't mean that these keycodes
are going to have identical semantics on all hardware. One solution to
that would be to avoid ever sending these keycodes, but that would make
having them defined in the first place a bit silly. Since they /are/
there, it makes sense to use them.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-15 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-14 14:11 [GIT PULL] thinkpad-acpi queue for 2.6.23 (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: enable more hotkeys Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <11844223322928-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add DMI-based modalias Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: remove all uneeded initializers Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: update information on T43 thermal sensor 0xc1 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export hotkey maximum masks Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export to sysfs the state of the radio slider switch Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: checkpoint sysfs interface version due to hotkey Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: register input device Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add input device support to hotkey subdriver Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:31 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070714223144.GA25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:12 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715181233.GG14134-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:45 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070715184519.GD3235-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:03 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 20:12 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 20:59 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 21:04 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2007-07-15 21:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715215453.GJ19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 2:47 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-16 15:46 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-16 15:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 18:19 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-16 18:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add power-management handler capability Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export EV_SW SW_RADIO events Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: checkpoint sysfs interface version due to input layer Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: rename pci HID constant Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:37 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070714223713.GC25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:02 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 18:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:18 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 21:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12 ` pci-ids: add Lenovo PCI vendor ID Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 11:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-15 21:22 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: store ThinkPad model information Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: allow use of CMOS NVRAM for brightness control Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: react to Lenovo ThinkPad differences in hot key Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:39 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070714223932.GD25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 17:59 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 18:31 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070715183150.GA3235-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:17 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715201712.GD19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make sure DSDT TMPx readings don't return +128 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make EC-based thermal readings non-experimental Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: bump up version to 0.15 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:58 ` [GIT PULL] thinkpad-acpi queue for 2.6.23 (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: update CMOS commands documentation Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make the input event mode the default Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 18:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715180529.GF14134-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 20:09 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 20:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:14 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715211421.GG19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 21:19 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070715211953.GA6527-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715220801.GK19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 0:12 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070716001239.GA31604-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16 0:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 3:02 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070716030254.GD31604-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16 15:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-16 18:21 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad_acpi: use bool for boolean parameters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
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