From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Pascal d'Hermilly <pascal@tipisoft.dk>, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Suspend-to-ram/disk signal
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:16:29 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071129151629.GD22587@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200711290128.22467.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > A deskptop suite trying to emulate the ThinkVantage suite in a ThinkPad
> > might want to check that the user woke up the laptop just to eject the bay,
> > and ask him if he wants the box to go back to sleep, and maybe even offer to
> > do so automatically from now on.
> >
> > The possibilities are endless...
>
> OTOH, there are applications that need not be notified in any way, so I don't
> think we should uncondtionally send signals to all of them, for example.
IMO, "need not be notified" != "must not be notified". *If* it doesn't
cause trouble for the vast majority of applications, notifying them all is
better.
> > But it would still be nice if we kicked userspace in the arse to let it know
> > it was sleeping for a while and needs to resync, when we wake up each
> > userspace task. The kernel makes that information available to kthreads
> > for a damn good reason. Sounds like a job for a SIGCONT, but I don't know
> > how well would that work.
>
> It wouldn't work very well, IMHO, unless the tasks in question are prepared to
> get an "out of order" SIGCONT.
It is a actually a bug if anything can't take multiple SIGCONT's in a row,
AFAIK. Most applications don't pay attention to SIGSTOP and SIGCONT at all
anyway, and let the default handlers take care of it (and those do the right
thing if they receive multiple signals).
> However, sending SIGSTOP to selected tasks before the suspend and then SIGCONT
> after the resume might do the trick.
Or to all userspace tasks that are not part of the "suspend process
interface" (for suspend2 UI) come to think of it, since we ARE going to
freeze them anyway. I.e. "send SIGSTOP to all but some selected tasks..."
:-)
--
"One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-29 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-26 22:39 Suspend-to-ram/disk signal Pascal d'Hermilly
2007-11-26 23:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-28 4:10 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-11-29 0:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-29 15:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [this message]
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