From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] PM: Do not destroy/create devices while suspended (rev. 2) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:14:51 +0100 Message-ID: <20080102201451.GC3985@elte.hu> References: <200801020032.45529.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080102105217.GA14731@elte.hu> <200801021356.59865.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080102131529.GA32160@elte.hu> <3ae72650801020655h6ec31ce8n5cd9014c00c9f6ad@mail.gmail.com> <20080102160137.GA21046@elte.hu> <20080102175400.3C2E0EF588@adsl-69-226-248-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:49627 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752647AbYABUPi (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:15:38 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080102175400.3C2E0EF588@adsl-69-226-248-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> Sender: linux-acpi-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org To: David Brownell Cc: kay.sievers@vrfy.org, a.zummo@towertech.it, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, rjw@sisk.pl, pavel@suse.cz, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org * David Brownell wrote: > I've been trying to make sure the x86 world could realistically switch > to the RTC framework used by other Linux platforms, hence e.g. the > util-unix-ng updates, but never assumed there would be no userspace > changes. After all, userspace was using a mishmash of tools that were > far from platform-agnostic, and moving away from x86-dependency > implies such things will change. > > However I *do* think that symlinking rtc to /dev/rtc0 should make it > practical to use most older binaries. then please provide a kernel config option for the new driver to take over 10:135 too. There's nothing worse to the adoption of new kernel features necessiating user-space attention. I've got several images of old distros that i dont want to reconfigure in any way, and it would be nice to have a drop-in /dev/rtc replacement for them. Really. This is how we do it for just about everything else too. Ingo