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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [patch 2.6.25-rc6 3/7] pci_choose_state() cleanup and fixes
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:55:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803221055.12541.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803211723.17685.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Friday 21 March 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > You seem to object to letting drivers offload this particular
> > bit of work to infrastructure.
> 
> No, I don't.  I just don't think it's a good idea to change the existing and
> widely used function for this purpose.  If I needed some specific functionality
> at the infrastructure level, I'd add a new function for that with a new
> changelog etc.  Then, made drivers switch to that and remove the old one.

I see that a lot of drivers have at some point, not long ago,
been converted to use this routine.  They previously just
used PCI_D3 in all cases.

It seems to me that your objection boils down to the concern
that those drivers may just have pushed their bug out a level,
rather than actually fixing their bugs.

Which I can sympathize with ... but that doesn't change the
fact that any driver in that position *still* has a bug that
needs to be fixed.  And if that bug is highlighted by this
patch ... well, there's still a driver bug to be fixed.


> > >     [Note that with the new suspend/hibernation callbacks there
> > > won't be the pm_message_t argument to pass to pci_choose_state().]
> >
> > The pm_message_t will necessarily linger until all drivers have
> > been converted and re-tested.  Which can't be an overnight thing.
>
> No, it can't.  Still, suppose a driver is using the new callbacks.  How is
> it supposed to use pci_choose_state()?

Hey, you're the one providing those callbacks.  How were you
going to answer that question *before* I posted this overdue
bugfix patch for pci_choose_state()?

- Dave

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-22 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 21:08 [patch 2.6.25-rc6 0/7] misc pm wake patches David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:09 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 1/7] crosslink ACPI and "real" device nodes David Brownell
2008-03-21  6:43   ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21  7:31     ` David Brownell
2008-03-21  8:34       ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21  9:04         ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:10 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 2/7] acpi_pm_device_sleep_state() cleanup David Brownell
2008-03-24 16:30   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-04-19  4:11   ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-29 20:33   ` [RE-RESEND patch 2.6.25-git] " David Brownell
2008-04-29 21:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-29 22:12       ` David Brownell
2008-04-30 12:07         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 21:12 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 3/7] pci_choose_state() cleanup and fixes David Brownell
2008-03-20 22:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:03     ` David Brownell
2008-03-21  0:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  0:55         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-21  1:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  8:15             ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 16:23               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:55                 ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-03-22 18:11                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 18:29                     ` David Brownell
2008-03-21  7:53         ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 16:38           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:49             ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 18:34               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  4:59                 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:15 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 4/7] USB uses pci_choose_state() David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:20 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 5/7] ACPI sets up device.power.can_wakeup flags David Brownell
2008-03-21  7:43   ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-19  4:14   ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-22  2:48     ` Zhang Rui
2008-03-20 21:22 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 6/7] ACPI uses device_may_wakeup() policy inputs David Brownell
2008-04-19  4:18   ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-22  2:42     ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-26 19:29       ` David Brownell
2008-04-22 13:30     ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-26 19:37       ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 12:48         ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-28  8:50           ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-28 13:43             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-04-29 23:38               ` David Brownell
2008-04-30 13:58                 ` Alan Stern
2008-05-14 14:56                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-28 22:28             ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 21:35           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-28 22:20             ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:54               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-29  0:20                 ` David Brownell
2008-04-29 20:32               ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:24           ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:26           ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:25 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 7/7] PCI set up device.power.can_wakeup flags David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:53   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-20 22:22     ` David Brownell

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