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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Zhao Yakui <yakui.zhao@intel.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RESEND patch 2.6.25] ACPI uses device_may_wakeup() policy inputs
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:20:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200804281520.05683.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080428213553.GA3489@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Monday 28 April 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Zhao Yakui wrote:
> > Yes. What your said is right. If your patch is applied, whether the PCI
> > device can wake the sleeping system is controlled by device driver. In
> > such case the /proc/acpi/wakeup will be useless.
> 
> Which calls for a new standard interface to let userpace control that,
> doesn't it?  Issues with wake-up devices are not uncommon, the user
> really has to have a way to configure that, and IMHO it better be a
> generic one...

That "new standard interface" has been in the kernel for quite
some time now:  /sys/devices/.../power/wakeup attributes, which
default to "enabled" for wake-capable devices.  Set to "disabled"
if it's not behaving on your system for some reason.  It's part
of the driver model infrastructure.

These patches have been nudging ACPI switch over to that generic
mechanism, instead of needing an ACPI-specific one... first posted
on the order of 18 months ago, FWIW.


Note that there are (broadly) two categories of issue here.  One
is with the hardware/firmware ... e.g. ACPI, on systems where that
exists.  (By far the minority in terms of Linux platforms, and maybe
in terms of individual systems too, despite the fact that most of
us developers run x86 Linux somewhere.)  The other is inside the driver
itself:  does it arrange for the right things to be wake events, and
handle them OK.

When I last did a survey of what drivers use PCI wakeup mechanisms,
the result was pretty weak:  a handful of network drivers, and the
USB host controllers.  Such support has been, if anything, declining
since we acquired "pm_message_t".  But I believe that most of those
drivers actually behave, at least on non-ACPI systems.

Try "cd linux-2.6; grep -lr pci_enable_wake *" for current results...

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-28 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 21:08 [patch 2.6.25-rc6 0/7] misc pm wake patches David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:09 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 1/7] crosslink ACPI and "real" device nodes David Brownell
2008-03-21  6:43   ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21  7:31     ` David Brownell
2008-03-21  8:34       ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21  9:04         ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:10 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 2/7] acpi_pm_device_sleep_state() cleanup David Brownell
2008-03-24 16:30   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-04-19  4:11   ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-29 20:33   ` [RE-RESEND patch 2.6.25-git] " David Brownell
2008-04-29 21:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-29 22:12       ` David Brownell
2008-04-30 12:07         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 21:12 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 3/7] pci_choose_state() cleanup and fixes David Brownell
2008-03-20 22:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:03     ` David Brownell
2008-03-21  0:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  0:55         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-21  1:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  8:15             ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 16:23               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:55                 ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 18:11                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 18:29                     ` David Brownell
2008-03-21  7:53         ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 16:38           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:49             ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 18:34               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  4:59                 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:15 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 4/7] USB uses pci_choose_state() David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:20 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 5/7] ACPI sets up device.power.can_wakeup flags David Brownell
2008-03-21  7:43   ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-19  4:14   ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-22  2:48     ` Zhang Rui
2008-03-20 21:22 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 6/7] ACPI uses device_may_wakeup() policy inputs David Brownell
2008-04-19  4:18   ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-22  2:42     ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-26 19:29       ` David Brownell
2008-04-22 13:30     ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-26 19:37       ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 12:48         ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-28  8:50           ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-28 13:43             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-04-29 23:38               ` David Brownell
2008-04-30 13:58                 ` Alan Stern
2008-05-14 14:56                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-28 22:28             ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 21:35           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-28 22:20             ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-04-28 22:54               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-29  0:20                 ` David Brownell
2008-04-29 20:32               ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:24           ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:26           ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:25 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 7/7] PCI set up device.power.can_wakeup flags David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:53   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-20 22:22     ` David Brownell

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