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From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Carlos Corbacho <carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ACPI BIOS Guideline for Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:29:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808291729.53628.trenn@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080828122227.GA26285@srcf.ucam.org>

On Thursday 28 August 2008 14:22:29 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 02:16:55PM +0200, Thomas Renninger wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 August 2008 12:56:16 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > A documented WMI interface is easier to use than an entirely custom
> > > documented interface, and reduces the amount of work the vendor has to
> > > do in Windows. To be honest, I think it's the sort of thing we should
> > > be encouraging.
> >
> > IMO WMI should not exist.
> > A lot laptop BIOSes do not use it at all, unfortunately it seems to get
> > more common again.
> > What advantage do you get on Linux using WMI?
>
> Little. But what advantage do we get in the same functionality being
> implemented in an entirely custom way? Even less.
It is all about documentation, right.
WMI is complicating things by one needless and complicated layer.

> > For example HP is using WMI to export a WLAN (or bluetooth?) button on
> > some machines.
> > They should not do that, right?
>
> The HP wlan button is a hardware event. There's no need for it to be
> sent via the keyboard controller. Some of the other keys would be easier
> to deal with if they were sent via the keyboard controller, yes, but
> that's not the full set of what the WMI functionality gives us. How do
> you want kill switches to be controlled? I'd be happier with it being
> done through WMI (like HP) than via Dell's bizarro SMI interface.
>
> > AFAIK most vendors tend to send an ordinary key event again for most
> > extra buttons. Is this the way to go for the future? This probably
> > should also be mentioned then.
>
> Some vendors do, and I agree that it's preferable.

Feel free to send text snippets, e.g. about the preferable way of key events.
Best a diff against the .tex file, but I can do the work and integrate it, np.

Thanks,

      Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-29 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24 15:32 [ANNOUNCE] ACPI BIOS Guideline for Linux Thomas Renninger
2008-07-24 23:47 ` Len Brown
2008-07-25 11:20   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-27 20:29 ` Carlos Corbacho
2008-08-28  9:41   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-28 10:56     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-28 12:16       ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-28 12:22         ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-29 15:29           ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2008-08-30 12:47             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-31 13:18               ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-31 17:25                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-09-03 15:09                   ` Thomas Renninger

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