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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Adam Belay <abelay@mit.edu>, Avuton Olrich <avuton@gmail.com>,
	Karl Bellve <karl.bellve@umassmed.edu>,
	Willem Riede <wriede@riede.org>,
	Matthew Hall <mhall@mhcomputing.net>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] PNP: don't check disabled PCI BARs for conflicts in quirk_system_pci_resources()
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:54:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080930125427.7a90a8b3@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0809301244290.3262@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > incidentally, i've been talking to Arjan about this recently in
> > context of the CONFIG_FASTBOOT feature. Because, as a side-effect,
> > in the long run, once the dependencies between initcalls fan out in
> > a more natural way, with explicit initcall ordering we'll also be
> > able to boot a bit faster and a bit more parallel.
> 
> Hell no.
> 
> We do not want any implicit parallelism in the initcalls. That way
> lies madness.
> 
> The probe functions that explicitly know that they are slow (like USB 
> detection and/or other individual drivers that have timeouts) should
> put themselves in the background. We should _not_ use the dependency
> chain to do so automatically, because for most cases drivers are
> totally independent, but we still want a _reliable_  and _repeatable_
> ordering.
> 
> Which means that I will not accept stuff that makes for a parallel
> bootup as a general initcall notion. I want things like network
> devices to show up in the same order for the same kernel, thank you
> very much - even if there is absolutely _zero_ ordering constraints
> between two independent network drivers.

just to avoid any confusion; the current -fastboot tree does not do
this parallel stuff. At all.
(so please don't judge it as doing that)


-- 
Arjan van de Ven 	Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-30 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-29 15:53 [patch 0/2] don't check disabled PCI BARs for conflicts with PNP devices Bjorn Helgaas
2008-09-29 15:56 ` [patch 1/2] PCI: add pci_resource_enabled() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-09-29 15:57 ` [patch 2/2] PNP: don't check disabled PCI BARs for conflicts in quirk_system_pci_resources() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-09-29 16:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-29 18:31     ` Rene Herman
2008-09-29 19:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30  9:19         ` Rene Herman
2008-09-30 14:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 15:57             ` Rene Herman
2008-09-30 16:29               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 17:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 17:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 19:29                     ` Rene Herman
2008-09-30 19:37                       ` Rene Herman
2008-09-30 19:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 20:48                         ` Rene Herman
2008-09-30 19:38                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 19:51                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 19:54                         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-09-30 20:01                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-01  6:13                         ` Grant Grundler
2008-10-01  8:26                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-06  5:34                             ` Grant Grundler
2008-10-01 15:14                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-01 16:21                             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-30 20:05                       ` Rolf Eike Beer
2008-10-01  8:52                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 18:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 18:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 19:51                     ` Rene Herman
2008-09-30 19:16                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-09-30 19:12                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-01 20:18                   ` Bjorn Helgaas

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