public inbox for linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhao Yakui <yakui.zhao@intel.com>,
	me@markdoughty.co.uk,
	linux-thinkpad <linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org>,
	"devel@acpica.org" <devel@acpica.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND] [PATCH 2/3] Introduce acpi_root_table=rsdt boot param and dmi list to force rsdt
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:58:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081020175814.GA13067@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081020175124.GH18277@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:51:24PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > But *why* is Vista not showing the symptoms?
> 
> I very much doubt anyone ever attempted to run Vista on a R40e or a R50e.
> It probably won't work well on the T4x/R51/R52 either, but I haven't tried.

I'd be surprised if nobody has done it. The hardware is above the 
minimum spec.

> > values in the table were never caught because, for some reason, Windows 
> > never used them. The bug is that we're not using the same heuristic as 
> > Windows. Applying a static list of hardware just results in it being 
> > likely that we'll never fix that bug.
> 
> I am a bit lost, now.  Are you talking about newer ThinkPads with
> Vista-capable BIOSes, or the older ones that can't handle it and thus are
> only subject to some ACPI access patterns when running Linux?

The R40e and R50e have differing values in the RSDT and XSDT tables. 
Linux uses the values from the XSDT, which apparently results in a 
system hang whenever you attempt to perform C-state manipulation. Using 
the RSDT values instead avoids this. Windows works fine, so is clearly 
using the RSDT values. However, we have no knowledge of what mechanism 
Windows uses to choose between the two sets of values.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-20 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-19 21:50 [RESEND] [PATCH 2/3] Introduce acpi_root_table=rsdt boot param and dmi list to force rsdt Thomas Renninger
2008-10-20  1:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-20 15:31   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-20 16:23     ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-20 16:27       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-20 16:48         ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-20 16:54           ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-20 17:51             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-20 17:58               ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2008-10-20 18:16                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-20 18:24                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-20 18:47                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-20 18:52                       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-20 19:25                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-21  8:14                         ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21  9:53                         ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21  9:57                 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21 12:46                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 13:05                     ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21 13:08                       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 13:34                         ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21 14:01                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-21 14:00                             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 14:12                               ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21 14:19                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 14:25                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-21 14:29                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 14:45                                   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-21 14:49                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 15:10                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-21 15:27                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 15:46                                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-21 15:50                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 16:58                                           ` [ltp] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-21 17:02                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-21 19:04                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-20 16:43   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-10-20 18:05     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-20 15:46 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-10-21 11:07   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-11-11  0:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-12 23:58   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-11-13  0:56     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-13  2:21     ` [Devel] " Zhang Rui
2008-11-13  2:24       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-13  8:27         ` Zhang Rui
2008-11-13 11:13           ` Matthew Garrett

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20081020175814.GA13067@srcf.ucam.org \
    --to=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    --cc=devel@acpica.org \
    --cc=hmh@hmh.eng.br \
    --cc=lenb@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org \
    --cc=me@markdoughty.co.uk \
    --cc=trenn@suse.de \
    --cc=yakui.zhao@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox