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From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: ak@linux.intel.com, rui.zhang@intel.com, nokos@gmx.net,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:31:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811180331.55114.trenn@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811171251.43103.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>

On Monday 17 November 2008 08:51:42 pm Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Sunday 16 November 2008 03:07:31 pm Thomas Renninger wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2008 04:27:42 pm Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Friday 01 August 2008 09:37:55 am Thomas Renninger wrote:
> > > > @@ -1013,7 +983,7 @@ static void acpi_device_set_id(struct
> > > > acpi_device *device, will get autoloaded and the device might still
> > > > match against another driver.
> > > >  		*/
> > > > -		if (ACPI_SUCCESS(acpi_video_bus_match(device)))
> > > > +		if (acpi_is_video_device(device))
> > > >  			cid_add = ACPI_VIDEO_HID;
> > > >  		else if (ACPI_SUCCESS(acpi_bay_match(device)))
> > > >  			cid_add = ACPI_BAY_HID;
> > >
> > > It doesn't seem right to me to make this core behavior depend
> > > on a config option.  With this approach, the ACPI device tree may
> > > or may not contain an ACPI_VIDEO_HID device, depending on whether
> > > CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO is set, and that seems capricious.
> > >
> > > What is the benefit of moving this code out of scan.c?  It's not
> > > a very big function, and I think the consistency is worth the extra
> > > code.
> >
> > This was done because the function is re-used later to detect which kind
> > of video functionalities the video device provides.
> > I somehow agree, but I don't see much of a disadvantage having this
> > separated. You do not have the video device marked as such if
> > CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO is not compiled in, but it shouldn't hurt?
>
> My personal opinion is that the device tree should be the same,
> regardless of which drivers were selected at build-time.  It should
> be possible to build a kernel with CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=n, then decide
> later that you want to load a video driver.  Plus, it took me about
> half an hour to figure out why the Makefile looks weird:
>
> 	obj-$(CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO)        += video.o
> 	ifdef CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO
> 	obj-y                           += video_detect.o
> 	endif
>
> (I first thought video_detect.o could just be moved up to the
> first line along with video.o.)
>
> > The two corresponding functions:
> > acpi_backlight_cap_match
> > acpi_is_video_device
> >
> > might also go back to video.c again and get exported there. I can do that
> > if you think it's worth it.
>
> As long as we use the "self-defined HID" strategy for binding drivers,
> I think those HIDs should be considered part of the core, and they
> should be set whenever CONFIG_ACPI=y.  I don't think they should
> depend on which drivers were selected at build-time.  In some ways,
> it might be nicer if a driver could supply its own "match" function,
> and then all the video-related special cases could be in the video
> driver.

The video and other drivers cannot provide their own match function or
autoloading of the driver would not work.
Either you compile it into the core and the detection/matching will always 
take place or you do it as it is currently done and the matching for video 
devices will only be done if ACPI_VIDEO is compiled in.

      Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-18  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 15:37 Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers - version 4 Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 01/10] ACPI: video: Ignore devices that aren't present in hardware Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 02/10] Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers Thomas Renninger
2008-08-04  1:56   ` Zhang Rui
2008-11-14 22:27   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-11-16 22:07     ` Thomas Renninger
2008-11-17 19:51       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-11-18  2:31         ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2008-08-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 03/10] Acer-WMI: fingers off backlight if video.ko is serving this functionality Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 21:52   ` Carlos Corbacho
2008-08-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 04/10] asus-acpi: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 05/10] compal: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 06/10] eeepc-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:38 ` [PATCH 07/10] fujitsu-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:38 ` [PATCH 08/10] msi-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:38 ` [PATCH 09/10] sony-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 15:38 ` [PATCH 10/10] thinkpad_acpi: " Thomas Renninger
2008-08-01 17:50   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-11-08  5:45     ` Len Brown
2008-08-01 20:49 ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers - version 4 Andi Kleen
     [not found] ` <1217632817.4610.6.camel@hidalgo>
2008-08-02 16:57   ` Do not return true to all kind of Windows OSI calls Thomas Renninger
2008-08-02 16:59     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-02 16:48       ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-02 17:31         ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-02 17:30           ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-02 19:48             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-03  4:43               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-08-03  6:33                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-03 13:31               ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-03 14:12                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-03 16:24                   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-06 17:12                     ` Moore, Robert
2008-08-02 16:57   ` [PATCH 1/2] ACPI: Provide a OSI interface that does not return true for Windows Thomas Renninger
2008-08-02 16:57   ` [PATCH 2/2] patch acpi_lenovo_thinkpad_only_return_vista.patch Thomas Renninger
2008-08-02 16:28     ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-04  1:16   ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPIdrivers - version 4 Zhang Rui
2008-08-04  6:09     ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-04  6:20       ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-04 10:20       ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-04 10:39         ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-04 11:19           ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-04 13:24             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-04 13:30               ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-04 13:40                 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-04 13:47                   ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-05  0:01         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-08-05  5:55           ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-05  9:13             ` Thomas Renninger
2008-08-05 12:00               ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-08-05 13:37             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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