From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: suspend/resume fails on second attempt in LNXVIDEO:00 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:52:27 +0100 Message-ID: <20081218075226.GD2110@ucw.cz> References: <200812161625.37318.rjw@sisk.pl> <200812161713.08451.rjw@sisk.pl> <20081216163746.GA9478@srcf.ucam.org> <20081216205335.GA14332@srcf.ucam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:37724 "EHLO gprs189-60.eurotel.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750762AbYLRHwh (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:52:37 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081216205335.GA14332@srcf.ucam.org> Sender: linux-acpi-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org To: Matthew Garrett Cc: "Brian J. Murrell" , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue 2008-12-16 20:53:35, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 06:07:15PM +0000, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:37:46 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > > > > I seem to be missing the original message, but: no, s2ram doesn't exist > > > in Ubuntu because pm-utils handles that role. > > > > Well, that's *their* argument but lots of people think otherwise. There > > appears to be no shortage of people for whom pm-utils does NOT work yet > > s2ram does. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/134238 > > The right answer to "This piece of software contains bugs" is not > "Provide two pieces of software with the same features but different > bugs". The only real functional difference between the two is that Yes, and that's why pm-utils should die: they have design problems (depend on hal, can't be pagelocked, unusable for suspend debugging). Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html