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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	linux-acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] why do we need run disk sync before entering S3
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:03:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200905131003.15199.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0905122155550.7989-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Zhang Rui wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all,
> > 
> > I did some S3 tests on an eeepc901, the total suspend time(from issue
> > the suspend command to power down) is about 2.5s~3s.
> > something interesting is that kernel runs disk sync before entering S3
> > state, and this takes about 0.7~1.2s.
> > my question is that, why do we need this for s2ram?
> > can we remove this and run sys_sync for S4 only?
> 
> At the risk of sounding foolish, I'd guess that a system in S3 (or more
> generally, suspend-to-RAM) is a lot more at risk of losing power or
> failing to restore than a normally running system.  (A normally running
> system is trivially not at risk of failing to restore!)  Consequently
> it makes sense to flush the I/O buffers before entering this state, to
> minimize the potential for loss of data.
> 
> When you think about it, a system in S4 is actually _less_ likely to 
> run into trouble than one in S3, since it can't fail because of loss of 
> power.  So if anything, we should remove the disk sync from hibernation 
> and leave it in system suspend.

I generally agree, but I think we may also leave the syncing to the user space,
in both cases.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-13  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-13  1:20 [RFC] why do we need run disk sync before entering S3 Zhang Rui
2009-05-13  2:01 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-05-13  8:03   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-05-13  8:45     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13  8:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:57         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 14:06         ` Alan Stern
2009-05-13 14:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14  9:42             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15  1:00               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-15  9:08                 ` suspending machine from kernel (was Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] why do we need run disk sync before entering S3) Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 21:15                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-15 14:36               ` [linux-pm] [RFC] why do we need run disk sync before entering S3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18  7:25                 ` Zhang Rui
2009-05-22 15:33                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-23  7:59                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-23  8:50                       ` [linux-pm] [RFC] why do we need run disk sync before entering?S3 Pavel Machek
2009-05-23  9:05                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-23  9:45                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-24 21:02                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-24 21:14                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-19  1:03     ` [RFC] why do we need run disk sync before entering S3 Nigel Cunningham

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