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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [patch update 2 fix] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:32:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906211332.46249.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0906202223080.20502-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Sunday 21 June 2009, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday 20 June 2009, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Some more thoughts...
> > > 
> > > Magnus, you might have some insights here.  It occurred to me that some 
> > > devices can switch power levels very quickly, and the drivers might 
> > > therefore want the runtime suspend and resume methods to be called as 
> > > soon as possible, even in interrupt context.
> > 
> > Then, we'll need special suspend and resume calls for them.
> 
> Good idea.  pm_runtime_resume_atomic() and pm_runtime_suspend_atomic().  
> No need for _request variants since the status should never be 
> RPM_SUSPENDING or RPM_RESUMING while the lock is released.

Yes, exactly.  I also thought of the same names. :-)

> > > Similarly, we should insure that runtime PM calls made before the
> > > device is registered don't do anything.  So when the device structure
> > > is first created and the contents are all 0, this should also be
> > > interpreted as an exceptional state.  We could call it RPM_UNREGISTERED
> > > and use it for both purposes.
> > 
> > Hmm.  How do you think is possible that the pm_runtime_* functions will be
> > called in such a situation?
> 
> By mistake.  :-)
> 
> Seriously, there _are_ places where drivers get bound to device before
> those devices are registered.  This happens for example in USB when a
> bunch of related interfaces are present in the same physical device.  
> When the first interface is registered, its driver binds itself to all
> the others even though they haven't been registered yet.

Well, the suspend functions could be protected against that under the
assumption that no suspend is possible for resume_counter = 0 (then, the "good
to go" value would be -1).

Still, the resume functions start from acquring a spinlock, which is not going
to work if that spinlock is uninitialized.

Best,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-21 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-13 22:23 [PATCH] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-14  9:41 ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-14 10:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-14  9:58 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-14 22:57   ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-14 23:18     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-06-15 20:02       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-15 21:08     ` Alan Stern
2009-06-15 23:21       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-16 14:30         ` Alan Stern
2009-06-16 21:30           ` [patch update 2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-16 22:33             ` [patch update 2 fix] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-17 20:08               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-17 23:07                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-18 18:17                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-19  0:38                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-19 16:25                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-19 22:42                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-20  2:34                           ` Alan Stern
2009-06-20 14:30                             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-20 23:48                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-21  2:30                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-21 11:32                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-06-22 14:16                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-06-22 15:27                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-22 15:39                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-06-22 15:53                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-22  6:20                               ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-22  6:43                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-06-22  7:27                                   ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-22 13:49                                     ` [linux-pm] " Arjan van de Ven
2009-06-22 15:39                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-22 15:33                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-22  8:15                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-20 23:38                             ` [patch update 3] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-21  2:23                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-21 12:46                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-22 15:01                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-22 15:49                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-22 16:28                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-22 23:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-23 17:02                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-23 17:45                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-23 18:26                                           ` Alan Stern
2009-06-24  0:17                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-24 14:51                                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-24 19:14                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-24 20:19                                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-24 21:23                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-24 15:04     ` [patch update] " Pavel Machek
2009-06-27 21:52       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06  8:28         ` Pavel Machek

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