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From: "Michael S. Zick" <lkml@morethan.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>,
	Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com
Subject: Re: Dynamic configure max_cstate
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:56:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200907310956.53816.lkml@morethan.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87prbg3ohq.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

On Fri July 31 2009, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de> writes:
> 
> > Instead we should strive for a far-reaching _generic_ mechanism
> > which gathers average latencies of various I/O activities/devices
> > and then uses some formula to determine the maximum (not necessarily ACPI)
> > idle latency that we're willing to endure (e.g. average device I/O reply latency
> > divided by 10 or so).
> 
> The interrupt heuristics in the menu cpuidle governour are already
> attempting this, based on interrupt rates (or rather
> wakeup rates) which are supposed to roughly correspond with IO rates
> and scheduling events together.
> 
> Apparently that doesn't work in this case. The challenge would
> be to find out why and improve the menu algorithm to deal with it.
> I doubt a completely new mechanism is needed or makes sense.
> 
> > And in addition to this, we should also take into account (read: skip)
> > any idle states which kill busmaster DMA completely
> > (in case of busmaster DMA I/O activities, that is)
> 
> This is already done.
> 

Almost - the VIA C7-M needs a bit of kernel command line help - -
But should be easily fixable when I or one of the VIA support people GATI.
(Bus snoops are only fully supported in C0 and C1 but idle=halt takes care of that.)

Mike
> -Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-31 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-27  5:30 Dynamic configure max_cstate Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-27  7:33 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-07-28  2:42   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-28  7:20     ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-07-28  9:00       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-28 10:11         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-07-28 14:03           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-07-28 17:35             ` ok, now would this be useful? (Re: Dynamic configure max_cstate) Andreas Mohr
2009-07-29  8:20           ` Dynamic configure max_cstate Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-31  3:43           ` Robert Hancock
2009-07-31  7:06             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-31  8:07               ` Andreas Mohr
2009-07-31 14:40                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-31 14:56                   ` Michael S. Zick [this message]
2009-07-31 17:37                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-07-31 15:14                 ` Len Brown
2009-07-30  6:28         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-28 19:25       ` Len Brown
2009-07-29  0:17   ` Len Brown
2009-07-29  8:00     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-07-28 19:47 ` Len Brown

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