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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"dtor@mail.ru" <dtor@mail.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/4] introduce device async actions mechanism
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:42:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908080142.38226.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1249436851.2670.422.camel@rzhang-dt>

On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Zhang Rui wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 01:33 +0800, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > > Not only that.  I'd like to simplify the design, because IMO using one async
> > > domain would be much more straightforward than using multiple ones.
> > 
> > > If I understand the async framework correctly, the domains are only used for
> > > synchronization, ie. if you want to wait for a group of async operations to
> > > complete, you can put them all into one domain and then call
> > > async_synchronize_full_domain() to wait for them all together.
> > > 
> > > You don't need multiple domains to run multiple things in parallel.
> > 
> > There's a basic confusion going on here.
> > 
> > Rui is using "async domain" to mean a collection of devices which 
> > will be suspended or resumed serially.  Different domains run in 
> > parallel.
> > 
> > Rafael is using "async domain" to mean a collection of devices which 
> > will be suspended or resumed in parallel.  Different domains run 
> > serially.
> > 
> cool, thanks for stating the confusion so clearly, Alan. :)
> 
> Hi, Rafael,
> 
> maybe there is still some confusions about my proposal.
> 
> I re-read kernel/async.c file, and notice that Arjan calls the domain as
> *_synchronization_* domain. sorry I use the wrong word before.
> 
> And I use the synchronization domains just to keep devices dependency.
> 
> First, the general idea is to suspend/resume those slow devices in
> parallel. So we don't suspend/resume them synchronously, instead, we
> move these actions to the global domain.
> 
> Then, I found that these actions can not be run asynchronously because
> they depend on other devices.
> For example, sd depends on SATA controller, we should make sure the PM
> callbacks of sd and ahci sata controller are run serially. so a
> synchronization domain is created for them.
> This is how multiple synchronization domains come from in this proposal.

I think I understand now, thanks.

However, I'd like to avoid any naming confusion in future, so let's follow the
convention of async.c, please.

Best,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-07 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-24  3:01 [PATCH V2 0/4] introduce device async actions mechanism Zhang Rui
2009-08-03 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-04  3:35   ` Zhang Rui
2009-08-04 16:21     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-04 17:33       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-04 18:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-05  1:47         ` Zhang Rui
2009-08-07 23:42           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-08-05  2:24       ` Zhang Rui
2009-08-08  0:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-08  0:29           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-08 12:53             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-11  6:22           ` Zhang Rui
2009-08-11 15:34             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-11 15:53               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-11 18:12                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-11 18:59                   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-11 23:17                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-12 14:03                       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-12 20:10                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-12 20:34                           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-12 21:18                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 14:30                               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-13 17:53                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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