From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
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Dominik Brodowski
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Subject: Re: Help needed, Re: [Bug #14334] pcmcia suspend regression from 2.6.31.1 to 2.6.31.2 - Dell Inspiron 600m
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:17:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910302317.26024.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910301412500.31845-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
On Friday 30 October 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > And partly exactly _because_ even Cardbus is starting to be "legacy", I'd
> > personally prefer to try to simplify the model to the point where we don't
> > have to think about all the subtle interactions. Just making suspend act
> > as an eject would mean that we'd never have to worry about how the CardBus
> > bridge interacts with the PCI layer at suspend/resume time.
>
> Put another way: five years ago I would have felt that it could be
> important that people can suspend and resume while they have a CD-ROM
> mounted through a PCMCIA IDE card. Or something like that where you want
> to keep session information.
>
> These days, that scenario is less interesting to begin with, and we're
> generally better at some of the hotplug issues anyway. Example: one of the
> reasons I used to like not causing an unplug event was because I had
> network cards, and hated setting up the connection again. These days, all
> distros come with networkmanager or similar, and hotplug networking just
> works (even if the "CD-ROM mounted" case probably still would cause
> problems).
>
> So I think we used to have good reasons to try to maintain state over a
> suspend event, but many of those reasons have become weaker, while at the
> same time USB has meant that PCMCIA itself has become more of a
> "maintenance burden" rather than a "primary subsystem".
I agree.
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-30 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-26 18:45 2.6.32-rc5-git3: Reported regressions from 2.6.31 Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <6dRYo8ss7vL.A.Z4G.kre5KB@chimera>
[not found] ` <4AE5F563.5020803@gmail.com>
2009-10-26 19:30 ` [Bug #14379] ACPI Warning for _SB_.BAT0._BIF: Converted Buffer to expected String Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <6dRYo8ss7vL.A.hyE.2qe5KB@chimera>
[not found] ` <4AE601B1.7050000@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <4AE601B1.7050000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-26 21:01 ` [Bug #14483] WARNING: at drivers/base/sys.c:353 __sysdev_resume+0x54/0xca() Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <6dRYo8ss7vL.A.EqH.Nse5KB@chimera>
2009-10-30 18:48 ` Help needed, Re: [Bug #14334] pcmcia suspend regression from 2.6.31.1 to 2.6.31.2 - Dell Inspiron 600m Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-30 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-30 20:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-30 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-30 21:17 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910301412500.31845-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-30 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-10-30 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-30 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-31 9:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-31 21:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-31 21:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-31 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-31 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200910312252.39446.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910311455520.31845-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200910312227.15493.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-31 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-31 23:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-01 8:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-01 16:47 ` Dominik Brodowski
[not found] ` <20091101164736.GA5666-S7uyTPAaJ/sb6pqDj42GsMgv3T4z79SOrE5yTffgRl4@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02 13:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200911010936.10409.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-01 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-02 13:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-02 17:38 ` Dominik Brodowski
[not found] ` <20091102173843.GA662-S7uyTPAaJ/sb6pqDj42GsMgv3T4z79SOrE5yTffgRl4@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02 18:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200911021439.28266.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-02 22:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-12 12:14 ` Pavel Machek
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