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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:51:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091112145121.GB6709@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911120841.11263.oliver@neukum.org>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:41:11AM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 01:33:12 schrieb Matthew Garrett:
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:09:24PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > That's okay.  There's no harm in trying to enable remote wakeup on a 
> > > device which doesn't support it.
> > 
> > There's harm if we're using the ability to generate remote waleups as a 
> > condition for whether we can perform runtime pm on the device...
> 
> That I would consider backwards. If the user enables runtime power management
> of a device, he has to live with remote wakeup being enabled. At most
> the kernel might resume and switch off remote wakeup on the device,
> but we might also leave this to user space.

My point was that if we don't have remote wakeup support at runtime, we 
can't enable runtime PM of the device. So we need to be able to 
distinguish between runtime remote wakeup and system sleep remote 
wakeup.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-09 22:43 [PATCH] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd Matthew Garrett
2009-11-10  8:20 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]   ` <200911100920.03361.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 12:41     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <20091110124109.GA18631-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 13:08         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]           ` <200911101408.01867.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 14:12             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]               ` <20091110141259.GA19792-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 15:04                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0911100949500.2888-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 11:34                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                       ` <200911111234.43867.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 17:08                         ` Alan Stern
2009-11-11 17:27                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-11 19:06                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0911111400370.6882-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 22:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-11 23:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-11-12  0:33                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-12  7:41                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-12 14:51                                         ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2009-11-12 16:50                                           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                           ` <20091112145121.GB6709-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 17:00                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-12 16:59                                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                 ` <20091112165958.GA9389-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16 21:26                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-16 22:26                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                       ` <20091112003312.GA27572-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 16:22                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-11-12 14:44                                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                       ` <200911121544.19313.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 16:47                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-11-12 10:31                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-12 14:50                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-11 22:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-11 23:05                     ` Alan Stern
2009-11-11 21:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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