From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 12/12] PM / r8169: Add simplified run-time PM support Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:00:40 +0100 Message-ID: <20100104210040.GA20001@elf.ucw.cz> References: <200911160047.46299.rjw@sisk.pl> <201001032201.14087.rjw@sisk.pl> <20100104083108.GD1372@ucw.cz> <201001042051.08692.rjw@sisk.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201001042051.08692.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: pm list , LKML , Linux PCI , ACPI Devel Maling List , Alan Stern , Jesse Barnes , Matthew Garrett , Oliver Neukum , Shaohua Li , Bjorn Helgaas , Francois Romieu , Len Brown List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org > > > > Which means it saves 0.6W :-). Measuring power in Wh/h is "interesting". > > > > > > You can't save power, you can only save energy. Wh is just an energy unit. > > > > Of course we can save power, you just did :-). > > > > (And in some cases -- data centers, limited cooling -- you are limited > > by power, not energy. > > But still energy is what you pay for, isn't it? Energy is what you pay for, but if you eat too much power, data centre overheats and goes down. > > You are right that on notebooks, energy is more important.) > > You may require less power to run, so if that's what you mean by "saving", then > I agree. :-) Yes, that's what I meant by saving :-), and yes, they are very related. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html