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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux@elte.hu, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <petkovbb@googlemail.com>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 44/60] ACPI, APEI, Add ERST record ID cache
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:56:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101025085608.GA3496@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ab532b764169a551caffc4f3ea550538091449e.1287987547.git.len.brown@intel.com>


* Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:

> From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
> 
> APEI ERST firmware interface and implementation has no multiple users
> in mind. For example, there is four records in storage with ID: 1, 2,
> 3 and 4, if two ERST readers enumerate the records via
> GET_NEXT_RECORD_ID as follow,
> 
> reader 1		reader 2
> 1
> 			2
> 3
> 			4
> -1
> 			-1
> 
> where -1 signals there is no more record ID.
> 
> Reader 1 has no chance to check record 2 and 4, while reader 2 has no
> chance to check record 1 and 3. And any other GET_NEXT_RECORD_ID will
> return -1, that is, other readers will has no chance to check any
> record even they are not cleared by anyone.
> 
> This makes raw GET_NEXT_RECORD_ID not suitable for usage of multiple
> users.
> 
> To solve the issue, an in memory ERST record ID cache is designed and
> implemented. When enumerating record ID, the ID returned by
> GET_NEXT_RECORD_ID is added into cache in addition to be returned to
> caller. So other readers can check the cache to get all record ID
> available.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce-apei.c |   42 ++++---
>  drivers/acpi/apei/erst-dbg.c          |   24 +++-
>  drivers/acpi/apei/erst.c              |  241 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>  include/acpi/apei.h                   |    5 +-
>  4 files changed, 247 insertions(+), 65 deletions(-)

NAK on similar grounds.

The code here is exporting all sorts of lowlevel hw error event details to 
user-space, in a vendor specific form, without _ANY_ effort whatsoever at 
generalizing it, merging it with the existing EDAC code, extending EDAC so that both 
can offer similar functionality, etc. etc.

And before you say that "it's for debug only": the direction of these patches 
suggests that this exported data will be used by user-space as an ad-hoc event 
interface, resulting in a de-facto ABI later on.

(Or if it will not be used by user-space then it should not be merged upstream.)

There's EDAC code that tries to do all this correctly, there was even an RFC 
user-space EDAC tool posted recently that uses the perf syscall to receive error 
events, etc. This code goes into debugfs and adds Yet Another Random ABI instead of 
using (or extending) existing facilities of structured event logging.

NAKed-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-25  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25  6:20 ACPI patches for 2.6.37-merge Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20 ` [PATCH 01/60] ACPI / ACPICA: Defer enabling of runtime GPEs (v3) Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 02/60] ACPICA: Fix acpi_os_read_pci_configuration prototype Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 03/60] ACPICA: Revert "Revert "Enable multi-byte EC transfers Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 04/60] ACPICA/ACPI: Add new host interfaces for _OSI support Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 05/60] ACPICA: Update version to 20100806 Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 06/60] ACPICA: Obsolete the acpi_os_derive_pci_id OSL interface Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 07/60] ACPICA: Add ACPI_INLINE configuration parameter Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 08/60] ACPICA: Make acpi_thread_id no longer configurable, always u64 Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 09/60] ACPICA: Update math module; no functional change Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 10/60] ACPICA: Make acpi_gbl_system_awake_and_running publically available Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 11/60] ACPICA: iASL/Disassembler: Write ACPI errors to stderr instead of output file Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 12/60] ACPICA: Add repair for _HID and _CID strings Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 13/60] ACPICA: Increase configurability of error messages Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 14/60] ACPICA: Update version to 20100915 Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 15/60] PNP: log PNP resources, as we do for PCI Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 16/60] PNPACPI: cope with invalid device IDs Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 17/60] ACPI: Remove unused #define ACPI_PROCESSOR_FILE_POWER Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 18/60] ACPI: Do not export hid/modalias sysfs file for ACPI objects without a HID Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 19/60] ACPI/PNP: A HID value of an object never changes -> make it const Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 20/60] acpi-cpufreq: fix a memleak when unloading driver Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 21/60] ACPI / PM: Fix problems with acpi_pm_device_sleep_state() Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 22/60] ACPI: add FW_BUG to OSI(Linux) message Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 23/60] ACPI ac/battery/sbs: sysfs I/F always built in, procfs I/F disabled by default Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 24/60] ACPI fan: remove deprecated procfs I/F Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 25/60] ACPI thermal: " Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 26/60] ACPI video: " Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 27/60] ACPI processor: make /proc/acpi/processor/*/throttle depends on CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 28/60] ACPI: remove unused declaration of proc_fs.h Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 29/60] ACPICA: Comment update; no functional change Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 30/60] ACPICA: Change type of _TZ from ThermalZone to Device Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 31/60] ACPICA: Eliminate duplicate code in acpi_ut_execute_* functions Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 32/60] ACPICA: Add Vista SP2 to supported _OSI strings Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 33/60] ACPICA: Clear PCIEXP_WAKE_STS when clearing ACPI events Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 34/60] ACPICA: Update version to 20101013 Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 35/60] ACPI: Only processor needs CPU_IDLE Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 36/60] ACPI: delete dedicated MAINTAINERS entries for ACPI EC and BATTERY drivers Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 37/60] ACPI: remove dead code Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 38/60] ACPI: static sleep_states[] and acpi_gts_bfs_check Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 39/60] ACPI: thermal: remove unused limit code Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 40/60] ACPI dock: move some functions to .init.text Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 41/60] ACPI: Make Embedded Controller command timeout delay configurable Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 42/60] ACPI battery: support percentage battery remaining capacity Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 43/60] Subject: [PATCH] ACPICA: Fix Scope() op in module level code Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 44/60] ACPI, APEI, Add ERST record ID cache Len Brown
2010-10-25  8:56     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 45/60] Add lock-less version of bitmap_set/clear Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 46/60] lock-less NULL terminated single list implementation Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 47/60] lock-less general memory allocator Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 48/60] Hardware error device core Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 49/60] Hardware error record persistent support Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 50/60] ACPI, APEI, Use ERST for hardware error persisting before panic Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:20   ` [PATCH 51/60] ACPI, APEI, Report GHES error record with hardware error device core Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 52/60] ACPI, APEI, Generic Hardware Error Source POLL/IRQ/NMI notification type support Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 53/60] ACPI / PM: Fix reference counting of power resources Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 54/60] ACPI / Battery: Return -ENODEV for unknown values in get_property() Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 55/60] ACPI: Fix ioremap size for MMIO reads and writes Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 56/60] ACPI: Maintain a list of ACPI memory mapped I/O remappings Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 57/60] ACPI: Add interfaces for ioremapping/iounmapping ACPI registers Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 58/60] ACPI: Pre-map 'system event' related register blocks Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 59/60] ACPI: Convert simple locking to RCU based locking Len Brown
2010-10-25  6:21   ` [PATCH 60/60] ACPI: Page based coalescing of I/O remappings optimization Len Brown

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