From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 2/3] ACPI, APEI, Add APEI generic error status print support
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:40:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101129194033.393e1f70.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1291087752.12648.95.camel@yhuang-dev>
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:29:12 +0800 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 11:03 +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:51:40 +0800 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > printk is one of the methods to report hardware errors to user space.
> > > Hardware error information reported by firmware to Linux kernel is in
> > > the format of APEI generic error status (struct
> > > acpi_hes_generic_status). This patch adds print support for the
> > > format, so that the corresponding hardware error information can be
> > > reported to user space via printk.
> > >
> > > PCIe AER information print is not implemented yet. Will refactor the
> > > original PCIe AER information printing code to avoid code duplicating.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > +#define pr_pfx(pfx, fmt, ...) \
> > > + printk("%s" fmt, pfx, ##__VA_ARGS__)
> >
> > hm, why does so much code create little printk helper macros. Isn't
> > there something generic somewhere?
>
> Sorry, I do not find the generic code for this helper. But I think this
> macro may be helpful for others too, who need to determine the log level
> only at runtime. Here corrected errors should have log level:
> KERN_WARNING, while uncorrected errors should have log level: KERN_ERR.
Oh, is that what it does. Replacing "pfx" everywhere with "loglevel"
(or similar) would have been much clearer?
> Do you think it is a good idea to make this macro generic?
hm, maybe. It's the sort of thing which gives rise to much
chin-scratching, which is why people usually avoid doing it ;) If the
macro is well-named and its intended use is quite clear then yes, it's
probably worth pursuing.
> > This patchset appears to implement a new kernel->userspace interface.
> > But that interface isn't actually described anywhere, so reviewers must
> > reverse-engineer the interface from the implementation to be able to
> > review the interface. Nobody bothers doing that so we end up with an
> > unreviewed interface, which we must maintain for eternity.
> >
> > Please fully document all proposed interfaces?
>
> Sorry. I don't realize that printk-ing something means implementing a
> new kernel->userspace interface. I think the messages resulted are
> self-explaining for human. Is it sufficient just to add example messages
> in patch description?
Well normally a printk() isn't really considered a "userspace
interface". This allows us to change them even though there surely
_are_ existing tools which treat particular messages as a userspace
interface. But I don't recall hearing of much breakage from changed
kernel printks.
However in this case you are avowedly treating the printks as a
userspace interface, with the intention that software be written to
parse them, yes? So once they're in place, we cannot change them? That
makes it more important.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-30 3:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-30 2:51 [PATCH -v2 0/3] Report APEI GHES error information via printk Huang Ying
2010-11-30 2:51 ` [PATCH -v2 1/3] Add CPER PCIe error section structure and constants definition Huang Ying
2010-11-30 2:51 ` [PATCH -v2 2/3] ACPI, APEI, Add APEI generic error status print support Huang Ying
2010-11-30 3:03 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-30 3:29 ` Huang Ying
2010-11-30 3:40 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-11-30 7:00 ` Huang Ying
2010-11-30 23:49 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-01 0:04 ` huang ying
2010-11-30 18:00 ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-30 18:17 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-30 23:56 ` huang ying
2010-11-30 2:51 ` [PATCH -v2 3/3] ACPI, APEI, report GHES error information via printk Huang Ying
2010-11-30 3:07 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-30 3:35 ` Huang Ying
2010-11-30 5:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 6:20 ` Huang Ying
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