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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Adam Belay <abelay@mit.edu>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>, Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] resources: add arch hook for preventing allocation in reserved areas
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:47:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101213134739.GA27941@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101213054334.GA15856@helgaas.com>


* Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> wrote:

> > OK, so I guess the best thing we can do for 2.6.37 is to revert 1af3c2e (x86: 
> > allocate space within a region top-down), right?
> 
> That's a possibility, but I'm not sure it's the best.  It would avoid the nx6325 
> landmine, but we could easily step on a different one on other machines.
> 
> If Windows uses the end of available space first, that's the best-tested 
> territory, and I think it's better to try to stay in it rather revert 1af3c2e and 
> start mapping different territory that really isn't tested by Windows at all.
> 
> On the nx6325, we stray out of that tested territory because Linux opens windows 
> on subtractive-decode bridges and allocates more space to CardBus bridges.
> 
> I think it'd be fairly simple to leave subtractive-decode bridges alone, and that 
> might make the nx6325 work well enough for .37, even without the quirk.  This 
> feels like a change that might be the right thing to do in general.  Using 
> subtractive rather than positive decode would give up a little performance, but I 
> doubt it's important

Is there a patch for that that people could try?

The regression needs to be addressed one way or another: either by improving the 
"compatible with Windows" approach to actually work (without quirks), or by 
reverting to the tested-for-years Linux solution.

( What we always try to avoid is trading in a set of regressions for another set of 
  regressions. That way lies madness, it can not result in reliable, provable 
  progress. )

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-13 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-08 21:36 [PATCH 1/5] resources: add arch hook for preventing allocation in reserved areas Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-08 21:36 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86: avoid BIOS area when allocating address space Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-08 21:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86: avoid PNP resources " Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-08 21:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] PNP: add framework for platform PNP quirks Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-08 21:36 ` [PATCH 5/5] PNP: HP nx6325 fixup: reserve unreported resources Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-12  3:30   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-12  5:23     ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-12  6:17     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-14 20:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-14 20:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-14 23:57           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-15  6:02           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-15  6:26         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-15  7:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-15 18:18             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-15 18:27               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-12-15 19:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-08 21:37 ` [PATCH 0/5] resources: add arch hook for preventing allocation in reserved areas Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-10 20:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] " Jesse Barnes
2010-12-10 20:36   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-10 21:07     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-11  1:37       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-12  3:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-12  4:16           ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-12 13:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-13  5:43               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-12-13 13:47                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-12-15  0:09                   ` Bjorn Helgaas

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