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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Cc: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@amd.com>, Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andiry Xu <andiry.xu@amd.com>,
	Alex He <alex.he@amd.com>,
	"Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: evaluate _PS3 when entering D3 Cold
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:55:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201204011055.39417.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1333267314.2387.122.camel@rui.sh.intel.com>

On Sunday, April 01, 2012, Zhang Rui wrote:
> On 日, 2012-04-01 at 09:47 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 01, 2012, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 03:03:39PM +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
> > > > First of all, I agree that we must evaluate _PS3 when setting device to
> > > > either D3_HOT or D3_COLD.
> > > Good.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And here is my understanding about D3/D3_HOT/D3_COLD,
> > > > 
> > > > if _PR3 exists, it means the devices supports both D3_HOT and D3_COLD.
> > > Agree.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > if only _PS3 exists, we can only say that the state after evaluating
> > > > _PS3 is D3, it could either be D3_HOT or D3_COLD, and this is device
> > > > specific, which in your case, is D3_COLD.
> > > I prefer Rafeal's definition, let's just *assume* the device is at D3
> > > cold after its _PS3 is executed. Unless it has _PR3, in which case, we
> > > have a chance to put the device into D3 hot instead.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, here is the description of _S0W in ACPI spec,
> > > > If OSPM has not indicated that it supports _PR3 through the OSPM
> > > > Platform-Wide Capabilities (see Section 6.2.10.2), then the value "3"
> > > > corresponds to D3. If it has indicated _PR3 support, the value "3"
> > > > represents D3hot and the value "4" represents D3cold.
> > > > 
> > > > So IMO, the _S0W should return 3 in AMD's implementation as it does not
> > > > have _PR3.
> > > OK, sounds like a firmware bug.
> > > Thanks for identifying this.
> > 
> > I don't think this is a bug.  It actually may return either 3 or 4, because
> > there is no difference between them if there's no _PR3 (i.e. the action to
> > carry out by software would only be different if _PR3 were present).
> > 
> I mean, surely that software should handle this case.

Well, exactly. :-)

> But this is still a violation of ACPI spec, as the device has only one
> D3 state, instead of D3_HOT/D3_COLD,, thus _S0W should return 3 instead.

If software is expected to handle that case anyway, I wouldn't really call
it a violation.  What really matters is what software is supposed to do.

Thanks,
Rafael
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-01  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-31 18:18 [PATCH] ACPI: evaluate _PS3 when entering D3 Cold Aaron Lu
2012-04-01  5:27 ` Lin Ming
2012-04-01  5:56   ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-01  6:28     ` Lin Ming
2012-04-01  7:23       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-01  7:45         ` Zhang Rui
2012-04-01  8:49           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-05  3:20             ` huang ying
2012-04-08 23:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-09  2:24                 ` Huang Ying
2012-04-09 21:24                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-05  2:31         ` Lin Ming
2012-04-05  2:56           ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-05  3:01             ` Lin Ming
2012-04-08 23:54               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-09  1:38                 ` Lin Ming
2012-04-09 21:25                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-08 23:53             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-08 23:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-05  2:38         ` Lin Ming
2012-04-09  0:02           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-01 14:41       ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-01  7:03     ` Zhang Rui
2012-04-01  7:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-01 15:34       ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-01  7:47         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-01  8:01           ` Zhang Rui
2012-04-01  8:55             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-04-23  1:09 ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-23 11:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-23 15:13     ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-23 19:50       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-24  2:07         ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-24  2:29           ` Lin Ming
2012-04-24  3:10             ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-24 13:15               ` Lin Ming
2012-04-24 14:24                 ` Aaron Lu
2012-04-24 21:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-26  8:55                     ` huang ying
2012-04-26 20:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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