From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@mvista.com>
Cc: Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
lenb@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] usb/acpi: Add support usb port power off mechanism for device fixed on the motherboard
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:04:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120512140438.GA30539@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FAE5BFE.4000904@mvista.com>
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 04:47:58PM +0400, Sergei Shtylyov wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On 11-05-2012 22:12, Sarah Sharp wrote:
>
> >>>For external ports, this should be associated with sys file control. The users
> >>>need to determine when they should be power off.
>
> >>You don't mean "external", you mean "not described as unconnectable by
> >>ACPI".
>
> >>>So I should work on the external ports without devices firstly and
> >>>add the sys file for user to control?
>
> >>Yes, I think so. It will be less controversial and probably simpler.
> >>When that mechanism is ready, you should be able to use it
> >>automatically for unconnectable ports.
>
> >>One tricky thing: In theory, there should be a separate sysfs file for
> >>each port. That seems like a lot of overhead though; is there any way
> >>to present the information in a single file that won't offend sysfs
> >>purists?
>
> >Tianyu proposed having one file per hub, with a bit field that
> >controlled each port power. However, I was concerned about different
> >userspace applications racing with each other to turn or off ports. For
> >example, one app could read the bit field, attempt to power off just
> >port 1, but before it can write to the sysfs file, a second app powers
> >on port2, and the first app then writes to the sysfs file, leaving port
> >1 powered off, and port 2 powered off, which is not what the second app
> >wanted.
>
> >But if you can think of a better way to coalesce the port power off
> >mechanisms into one file, we're all ears. :)
>
> How about two files? You write 1 to the bit that matcheas port
> you want powered on in the 'poweron' file, and vice versa, you write
> 1 to the bit that matches port you want powered off in the
> 'poweroff' file.
Ick, no, bit manipulation in sysfs files isn't the nicest thing at all
(especially as Sarah implied that we could have more than 64 ports for a
host, and then what, we have what, 128bit variables here?)
One file per port please, in a generic way.
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-12 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-10 8:33 [RFC PATCH] usb/acpi: Add support usb port power off mechanism for device fixed on the motherboard Lan Tianyu
2012-05-10 15:54 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1205101136470.1831-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 16:35 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-10 17:44 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 16:12 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-11 16:16 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-11 17:44 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 18:12 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-12 12:47 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2012-05-12 14:04 ` Greg KH [this message]
2012-05-12 18:00 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-11 18:18 ` Lan Tianyu
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1205111302080.1865-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-11 18:35 ` Greg KH
2012-05-11 19:32 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 20:11 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 21:09 ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-15 1:47 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-15 4:57 ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-11 19:54 ` Lan, Tianyu
2012-05-11 20:15 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 20:26 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 20:20 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-12 17:47 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-12 18:04 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-13 2:50 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-10 19:19 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <1336677578.6463.5.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:11 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 4:13 ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-11 14:20 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1205111019000.1865-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-11 14:30 ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-11 14:08 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 18:03 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 19:14 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 20:21 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 20:36 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 23:59 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-12 0:17 ` Greg KH
2012-05-12 13:54 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-14 23:21 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-15 14:31 ` Lan Tianyu
[not found] ` <4FB268CA.9060304-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 15:18 ` Greg KH
2012-05-15 20:00 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-16 6:26 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-16 14:36 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-16 14:39 ` Greg KH
2012-05-16 14:54 ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-16 15:08 ` Greg KH
2012-05-16 15:32 ` Lan Tianyu
[not found] ` <20120516150846.GB3293-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-16 15:57 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-16 15:12 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <20120516143958.GA612-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-17 11:42 ` Sergei Shtylyov
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