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From: Julian Wollrath <jwollrath@web.de>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Regression]: Changing brightness does not work with v3.16-rc4
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:50:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140716135035.21106dfe@saldaea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53C63955.2090905@redhat.com>

Am Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:35:33 +0200
schrieb Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>:

> Hi,
> 
> On 07/16/2014 10:13 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > I realize that this does not fix Julian's problem. As I see it
> > there are 2 separate problems here:
> > 
> > 1) backlight control issues on Windows 8 laptops, this is what we
> > are trying to solve with video.use_native_backlight=1 (and without
> > using any acpi_osi override)
> > 
> > 2) Some component in the stack needs to responds to backlight
> > key-presses and actually use the backlight control to change the
> > backlight setting, normally this is done by gnome / kde / unity /
> > xfce, but what about users not running those? For some of those
> > users brightness_switch_enabled=1 has been making things work for
> > them, but that only works if acpi-video controls the backlight,
> > which it does not do everywhere, and which we want to get away from
> > for Windows 8 laptops since it is just too broken there.
> > 
> > Note that 2. is not limited to Windows 8 laptops / acpi-video in any
> > way, we've 23 non acpi-video backlight drivers under
> > drivers/platform/x86/ alone + the native gpu backlight drivers. So
> > what we really need is a solution for any laptop not using
> > acpi-video for backlight control and not running one of the big 4
> > desktop environments.
> > 
> > Note that we pretty much have the same problem for any acpi event,
> > power button pressed, lid closed, etc. are all "key press" type
> > events typically handles by the desktop enviroment (e.g. we don't
> > automatically suspend on lid-close, we just tell userspace). And we
> > already have a solution for these type of events when running a
> > desktop environment which handles them, these get handled by acpid.
> > So to me it seems that
> 
> s/handles/does not handle/  small but important typo.
> 
> > the obvious (and one and only right) way to fix this is to teach
> > acpid to deal with brightness key-presses.
> > 
> > I'm willing to write a patch for acpid to implement this, and then
> > Julian's setup should just work without needing any special kernel
> > commandline options.
> > 
> > Julian would that be an acceptable solution for you, and would you
> > be willing to test such a patch ?
Yes, of course that would be an acceptable solution for me and yes, I
would be willing to test such a patch.

Cheers,
Julian

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-16 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-12 16:06 [Regression]: Changing brightness does not work with v3.16-rc4 Julian Wollrath
2014-07-12 16:24 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 18:21   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 18:34     ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 19:02       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 19:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 18:56           ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 19:17             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-15  6:06               ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-15 12:27                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-15 14:00                   ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-15 14:05                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-15 14:45                     ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16  0:43                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16  6:29                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16  7:19                           ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16  8:13                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16  8:30                               ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16  8:35                               ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16 11:50                                 ` Julian Wollrath [this message]
2014-07-16 11:52                                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-15 21:38                 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-16  2:36             ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16 11:36               ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14  2:06 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-14 12:42   ` Julian Wollrath

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