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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Kani, Toshimitsu" <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
Cc: "tony.luck@intel.com" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com"
	<srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	"lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-edac@vger.kernel.org" <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ghes_edac: add platform check to enable ghes_edac
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:52:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170719055235.GD26030@nazgul.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1500412288.2042.25.camel@hpe.com>

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:20:44PM +0000, Kani, Toshimitsu wrote:
> I agree that 'osc_sb_apei_support_acked' should be checked when
> enabling ghes_edac.  I do not know the details of existing issues, but
> it sounds unlikely that this will address all of them since bugs can be
> everywhere.

No, see below.

> For instance, ghes_edac relies on DMI/SMBIOS info, unlike
> other EDAC drivers, which can be buggy regardless of this _OSC info.

That's the problem with firmware. You can't really fix it and it is
buggy as hell.

> I agree that making ghes_edac as a normal module is a good thing, but I
> do not think it's going to solve this issue.

Of course it will - if the firmware says it wants to look at the errors
first, then it gets to do so. This is the whole handling of hardware
errors in the firmware deal. I admit, sometimes it makes sense because
the firmware has the most intimate knowledge of the platform and, in
a perfect world, we won't ever need to have platform-specific EDAC
drivers.

But, we don't live in a perfect world. And the vendor execution of the
whole firmware-error-handling deal is an abomination at best.

So, if we realize that the firmware is buggy, we can use a platform list
to blacklist it (^hint hint^) and have a parameter to disable ghes_edac
from loading.

But we'll deal with that when we get to cross that bridge. Right now,
I'd like to do the loading spec-conform and not fiddle with white-,
black-, or any-other-color lists.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.
--

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-19  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-17 21:59 [PATCH 0/3] enable ghes_edac on selected platforms Toshi Kani
2017-07-17 21:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] ACPI / blacklist: add acpi_match_oemlist() interface Toshi Kani
2017-07-18  5:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 15:48     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-18 16:43       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 17:24         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-18 17:42           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 18:49             ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-18 19:32               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 20:17                 ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-17 21:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] intel_pstate: convert to use acpi_match_oemlist() Toshi Kani
2017-07-17 21:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] ghes_edac: add platform check to enable ghes_edac Toshi Kani
2017-07-18  6:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18  8:08     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 21:20       ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-19  5:52         ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2017-07-19 16:10           ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-19 16:22             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-19 16:56               ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-20  4:16                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-20 14:42                   ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-20 15:04                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-20 16:55                       ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-20 17:05                         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-20 17:10                           ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-20 18:16                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-19 18:55               ` Aristeu Rozanski
2017-07-19 20:13                 ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-20  4:19                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 19:58     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-18 21:15       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-19  5:58         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-19 15:14           ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-19 15:57             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-19 18:06               ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-19 16:02             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-19 20:06               ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-20 21:15               ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-21  0:00                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-21 16:53                   ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-19 16:40         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-20  4:33           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-20 19:50             ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-20 20:15               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-20 21:07                 ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-21 13:34               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-21 13:40                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-21 13:47                   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-21 15:08                     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-21 15:13                       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-21 15:34                         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-21 15:44                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-21 16:40                             ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-21 17:01                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-21 17:21                                 ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-21 17:23                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-21 18:38                                   ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-22  6:28                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-24 14:49                                       ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-24 15:04                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-24 15:25                                           ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-24 15:37                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-24 15:56                                               ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-24 16:37                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-24 17:44                                                   ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-24 17:50                                                     ` Boris Petkov
2017-07-24 17:54                                                       ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-24 18:18                                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-24 17:56                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-24 18:12                                                   ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-24 16:04                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-24 16:44                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-24 18:10                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-24 18:30                                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-25 23:00                                                       ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-21 15:53                           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-21 16:32                             ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-19  5:55       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 22:13     ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-19  6:01       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-07-18 14:39   ` Jeffrey Hugo
2017-07-18 15:36     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-07-18 16:24       ` Jeffrey Hugo
2017-07-18 16:42         ` Kani, Toshimitsu

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