From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Yehezkel Bernat <yehezkelshb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ashok.raj-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
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David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] thunderbolt: Export IOMMU based DMA protection support to userspace
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:20:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181113152038.GD2500@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CmpXt1cfqjz94=WsggKpNCUw3761-cewa_HTa0ETcYK7o+Hw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 04:42:58PM +0200, Yehezkel Bernat wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:40 PM Mika Westerberg
> <mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 01:13:31PM +0200, Yehezkel Bernat wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:56 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just one point:
> > > > > Have you considered the option to add this property per (TBT?) device?
> > > >
> > > > No. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > You mean that one device uses security levels and another IOMMU? I don't
> > > > think it is possible without having some sort of table in the IOMMU
> > > > driver telling which devices it needs identity map and which not. Also
> > > > not sure what would be the benefit?
> > >
> > > For performance, of course. If some devices are considered safe (maybe a list
> > > communicated by platform firmware), the kernel may decide to configure them to
> > > passthrough the IOMMU (I think I remember there is such an option, but maybe I'm
> > > wrong.)
> >
> > At least I'm not aware of such an option. Windows for example enables
> > IOMMU for everything and I think macOS does the same. In Linux (with
> > these patches) we put all internal devices already passthrough mode so
> > things like internal graphics should not be affected. eGPUs are
> > different thing, though.
>
> So your point here is "currently we do the IOMMU decisions system-wide; we can
> always add a per-device attribute if needed"?
Well, let me elaborate a bit :) I think it is possible to put certain
devices into IOMMU passthrough mode even if they are "external" but I'm
not that familiar with the guts of Intel IOMMU (Baolu or Ashok are the
experts). Assuming it is possible we could have a table or similar in
the kernel that can be used to identify devices that are allowed to be
in passthrough mode.
I'm not sure if it can be per-device sysfs attribute because at the time
the PCIe device is enumerated it is already put to its IOMMU group.
> Fair enough.
>
> So for this patch,
> Reviewed-by: Yehezkel Bernat <YehezkelShB-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-13 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-12 16:06 [PATCH 0/4] PCI / iommu / thunderbolt: IOMMU based DMA protection Mika Westerberg
[not found] ` <20181112160628.86620-1-mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] PCI / ACPI: Identify external PCI devices Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 18:02 ` Lukas Wunner
[not found] ` <20181112180203.lx72gjfplb6xlur7-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 10:56 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-13 11:27 ` Mika Westerberg
[not found] ` <20181113112700.GT2500-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 11:45 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-15 10:22 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 11:13 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
[not found] ` <20181115111356.GA599-4tUPXFaYRHv6sAKXYmQ0tx/iLCjYCKR+VpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-15 11:37 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 12:07 ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-15 12:16 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 17:46 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-15 17:58 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-15 19:10 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 19:27 ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-15 19:32 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-16 9:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 9:32 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-22 10:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-22 10:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-15 19:00 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 19:33 ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-11-16 10:57 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-20 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-11-21 12:40 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-16 7:01 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] iommu/vt-d: Force IOMMU on for platform opt in hint Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 17:49 ` Raj, Ashok
2018-11-12 18:09 ` Alex Williamson
2018-11-12 19:51 ` Raj, Ashok
2018-11-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] iommu/vt-d: Do not enable ATS for external devices Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 17:53 ` Raj, Ashok
2018-11-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] thunderbolt: Export IOMMU based DMA protection support to userspace Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:22 ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-11-13 10:36 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:59 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-13 10:55 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 11:13 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-13 11:40 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 14:42 ` Yehezkel Bernat
[not found] ` <CA+CmpXt1cfqjz94=WsggKpNCUw3761-cewa_HTa0ETcYK7o+Hw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 15:20 ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
[not found] ` <20181113152038.GD2500-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 15:38 ` Yehezkel Bernat
[not found] ` <CA+CmpXteN1PJEHMV8rvfeBXK6Eb4z6BgZwa8Ojavi1y9pKN-jA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 16:12 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 18:12 ` [PATCH 0/4] PCI / iommu / thunderbolt: IOMMU based DMA protection Lukas Wunner
[not found] ` <20181112181214.xaahc5wni4vuwl6h-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 19:04 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-13 11:13 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 8:54 ` Joerg Roedel
2018-11-13 11:32 ` Mika Westerberg
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