From: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
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Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@k>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv2 0/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce memory block types
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 00:48:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181201004836.jr6r3vyenpph3agj@master> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181130175922.10425-1-david@redhat.com>
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 06:59:18PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>This is the second approach, introducing more meaningful memory block
>types and not changing online behavior in the kernel. It is based on
>latest linux-next.
>
>As we found out during dicussion, user space should always handle onlining
>of memory, in any case. However in order to make smart decisions in user
>space about if and how to online memory, we have to export more information
>about memory blocks. This way, we can formulate rules in user space.
>
>One such information is the type of memory block we are talking about.
>This helps to answer some questions like:
>- Does this memory block belong to a DIMM?
>- Can this DIMM theoretically ever be unplugged again?
>- Was this memory added by a balloon driver that will rely on balloon
> inflation to remove chunks of that memory again? Which zone is advised?
>- Is this special standby memory on s390x that is usually not automatically
> onlined?
>
>And in short it helps to answer to some extend (excluding zone imbalances)
>- Should I online this memory block?
>- To which zone should I online this memory block?
>... of course special use cases will result in different anwers. But that's
>why user space has control of onlining memory.
>
>More details can be found in Patch 1 and Patch 3.
>Tested on x86 with hotplugged DIMMs. Cross-compiled for PPC and s390x.
>
>
>Example:
>$ udevadm info -q all -a /sys/devices/system/memory/memory0
> KERNEL=="memory0"
> SUBSYSTEM=="memory"
> DRIVER==""
> ATTR{online}=="1"
> ATTR{phys_device}=="0"
> ATTR{phys_index}=="00000000"
> ATTR{removable}=="0"
> ATTR{state}=="online"
> ATTR{type}=="boot"
> ATTR{valid_zones}=="none"
>$ udevadm info -q all -a /sys/devices/system/memory/memory90
> KERNEL=="memory90"
> SUBSYSTEM=="memory"
> DRIVER==""
> ATTR{online}=="1"
> ATTR{phys_device}=="0"
> ATTR{phys_index}=="0000005a"
> ATTR{removable}=="1"
> ATTR{state}=="online"
> ATTR{type}=="dimm"
> ATTR{valid_zones}=="Normal"
>
>
>RFC -> RFCv2:
>- Now also taking care of PPC (somehow missed it :/ )
>- Split the series up to some degree (some ideas on how to split up patch 3
> would be very welcome)
>- Introduce more memory block types. Turns out abstracting too much was
> rather confusing and not helpful. Properly document them.
>
>Notes:
>- I wanted to convert the enum of types into a named enum but this
> provoked all kinds of different errors. For now, I am doing it just like
> the other types (e.g. online_type) we are using in that context.
>- The "removable" property should never have been named like that. It
> should have been "offlinable". Can we still rename that? E.g. boot memory
> is sometimes marked as removable ...
>
This make sense to me. Remove usually describe physical hotplug phase,
if I am correct.
--
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-01 0:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-30 17:59 [PATCH RFCv2 0/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce memory block types David Hildenbrand
2018-11-30 17:59 ` [PATCH RFCv2 1/4] " David Hildenbrand
2018-12-01 1:25 ` Wei Yang
2018-12-03 10:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-03 20:58 ` Wei Yang
2018-11-30 17:59 ` [PATCH RFCv2 2/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Replace "bool want_memblock" by "int type" David Hildenbrand
2018-12-01 1:50 ` Wei Yang
2018-12-03 10:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-30 17:59 ` [PATCH RFCv2 3/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce and use more memory types David Hildenbrand
2018-12-04 9:44 ` Michal Suchánek
2018-12-04 9:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-30 17:59 ` [PATCH RFCv2 4/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Drop MEMORY_TYPE_UNSPECIFIED David Hildenbrand
2018-12-01 0:48 ` Wei Yang [this message]
2018-12-20 12:58 ` [PATCH RFCv2 0/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce memory block types David Hildenbrand
2018-12-20 13:08 ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-20 13:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-03-27 16:03 ` David Hildenbrand
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