From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
"Joonas Lahtinen" <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
"Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>,
linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org,
intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/15] pwm: lpss: Add range limit check for the base_unit register value
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 15:51:56 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200608125156.GL2428291@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90769dc0-3174-195b-34e0-ef4bb9d9b982@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 01:07:12PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> On 6/8/20 5:50 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 08:18:28PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > > When the user requests a high enough period ns value, then the
> > > calculations in pwm_lpss_prepare() might result in a base_unit value of 0.
> > >
> > > But according to the data-sheet the way the PWM controller works is that
> > > each input clock-cycle the base_unit gets added to a N bit counter and
> > > that counter overflowing determines the PWM output frequency. Adding 0
> > > to the counter is a no-op. The data-sheet even explicitly states that
> > > writing 0 to the base_unit bits will result in the PWM outputting a
> > > continuous 0 signal.
> >
> > So, and why it's a problem?
>
> Lets sya the user requests a PWM output frequency of 100Hz on Cherry Trail
> which has a 19200000 Hz clock this will result in 100 * 65536 / 19200000 =
> 0.3 -> 0 as base-unit value. So instead of getting 100 Hz the user will
> now get a pin which is always outputting low.
>
> OTOH if we clamp to 1 as lowest value, the user will get 192000000 / 65536
> = 292 Hz as output frequency which is as close to the requested value as
> we can get while actually still working as a PWM controller.
So, we should basically divide and round up, no?
At least for 0 we will get 0.
> > > base_unit values > (base_unit_range / 256), or iow base_unit values using
> > > the 8 most significant bits, cause loss of resolution of the duty-cycle.
> > > E.g. assuming a base_unit_range of 65536 steps, then a base_unit value of
> > > 768 (256 * 3), limits the duty-cycle resolution to 65536 / 768 = 85 steps.
> > > Clamp the max base_unit value to base_unit_range / 32 to ensure a
> > > duty-cycle resolution of at least 32 steps. This limits the maximum
> > > output frequency to 600 KHz / 780 KHz depending on the base clock.
> >
> > This part I don't understand. Why we limiting base unit? I seems like a
> > deliberate regression.
>
> The way the PWM controller works is that the base-unit gets added to
> say a 16 bit (on CHT) counter each input clock and then the highest 8
> bits of that counter get compared to the value programmed into the
> ON_TIME_DIV bits.
>
> Lets say we do not clamp and allow any value and lets say the user
> selects an output frequency of half the input clock, so base-unit
> value is 32768, then the counter will only have 2 values:
> 0 and 32768 after that it will wrap around again. So any on time-div
> value < 128 will result in the output being always high and any
> value > 128 will result in the output being high/low 50% of the time
> and a value of 255 will make the output always low.
>
> So in essence we now only have 3 duty cycle levels, which seems like
> a bad idea to me / not what a pwm controller is supposed to do.
It's exactly what is written in the documentation. I can't buy base unit clamp.
Though, I can buy, perhaps, on time divisor granularity, i.e.
1/ 0% - 25%-1 (0%)
2/ 25% - 50% - 75% (50%)
3/ 75%+1 - 100% (100%)
And so on till we got a maximum resolution (8 bits).
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-08 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-07 18:18 [PATCH v2 00/15] pwm/i915: Convert pwm-crc and i915 driver's PWM code to use the atomic PWM API Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] ACPI / LPSS: Resume Cherry Trail PWM controller in no-irq phase Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] ACPI / LPSS: Save Cherry Trail PWM ctx registers only once (at activation) Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] pwm: lpss: Add range limit check for the base_unit register value Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 3:50 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-08 11:07 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 12:51 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2020-06-08 14:19 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-11 22:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-12 11:57 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-13 20:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] pwm: lpss: Fix off by one error in base_unit math in pwm_lpss_prepare() Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 3:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-08 11:13 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 12:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] pwm: lpss: Set SW_UPDATE bit when enabling the PWM Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] pwm: crc: Fix period / duty_cycle times being off by a factor of 256 Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-09 13:45 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] pwm: crc: Fix off-by-one error in the clock-divider calculations Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] pwm: crc: Fix period changes not having any effect Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] pwm: crc: Enable/disable PWM output on enable/disable Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-11 22:20 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-12 16:59 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] pwm: crc: Implement apply() method to support the new atomic PWM API Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-09 13:44 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 13:50 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] pwm: crc: Implement get_state() method Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-11 21:37 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-12 17:00 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] drm/i915: panel: Add get_vbt_pwm_freq() helper Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] drm/i915: panel: Honor the VBT PWM frequency for devs with an external PWM controller Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] drm/i915: panel: Honor the VBT PWM min setting " Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] drm/i915: panel: Use atomic PWM API " Hans de Goede
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