Linux ACPI
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: 葛士建 <geshijian@bytedance.com>
Cc: Sunil V L <sunilvl@ventanamicro.com>,
	Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	cuiyunhui@bytedance.com, jrtc27@jrtc27.com, kernel@esmil.dk,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org,
	jdelvare@suse.com, yc.hung@mediatek.com,
	angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com,
	allen-kh.cheng@mediatek.com,
	pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com, tinghan.shen@mediatek.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	weidong.wd@bytedance.com, Dong Wei <Dong.Wei@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Obtain SMBIOS and ACPI entry from FFI
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 17:07:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230707-gargle-enjoyable-f9f7f87fc7ea@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN3iYbOe+i4jVhz0sSQwVQ2PMB7UvaTPyN_sLtZj0uiOD2emDA@mail.gmail.com>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1991 bytes --]

Hey,

On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 11:56:48PM +0800, 葛士建 wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 8:55 PM Sunil V L <sunilvl@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:05:48PM +0800, 葛士建 wrote:
> > > Hi Sunil,
> > >
> > > From Sunil:
> > > IMO, if the question is generic like "Is UEFI mandatory for RISC-V?",
> > > the answer will be solid "no" because we can use DT without UEFI. But if
> > > you ask whether UEFI is mandatory for ACPI support on RISC-V, then the
> > > answer will be "yes".
> > > ---- Why UEFI is mandatory for ACPI support on RISC-V?  As we know, on X86,
> > > ACPI works well without UEFI. Is there any limitation on RISC-V
> > > architecture?
> > Yes, the limitation is RISC-V can not use IA-PC BIOS. Please see
> > section 5.2.5 and 15 in ACPI spec.
> >
> > I don't have much to add to Ard's reasons.
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/CAMj1kXFZren0Q19DimwQaETCLz64D4bZQC5B2N=i3SAWHygkTQ@mail.gmail.com/
> >

> I don't think that's the limitation on RISC-V. BTW, how does OSPM find the
> RSDP on ARM systems? Does it meet 5.2.5?
> 
> Here are
> 1. Purpose: purpose is to provide another option on Firmware Solution; Our
> purpose is NOT to ban UEFI.
> 2. Both ARM and RISC-V starts from UBOOT solution, and that's close to
> coreboot, so we would like to enable flexible and rich ecosystem.
> 3. We don't like to push coreboot and UEFI together, so we don't plan to
> enable UEFI in coreboot(maybe from Uboot); because that makes the solution
> complex.
> 4. I think we should fix the request and problem, banning or protecting
> something is NOT the goal of us.
> 
> I think the solution is for both RISC-V and ARM, and also it works on X86
> if it's done.
> Let me know what the problem and impact is, please.

If you are going to keep arguing this, please stop sending top-posted
HTML to the mailing list. It makes it impossible for those not in the CC
list to follow along.

Thanks,
Conor.

[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 228 bytes --]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-07 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-05 11:42 [PATCH v3 0/4] Obtain SMBIOS and ACPI entry from FFI Yunhui Cui
2023-07-05 11:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] riscv: obtain ACPI RSDP from devicetree Yunhui Cui
2023-07-05 11:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] firmware: introduce FFI for SMBIOS entry Yunhui Cui
2023-07-05 11:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] riscv: obtain SMBIOS entry from FFI Yunhui Cui
2023-07-05 11:42 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] dt-bindings: firmware: Document ffitbl binding Yunhui Cui
2023-07-05 15:06   ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-06  3:43     ` [External] " 运辉崔
2023-07-06  6:00       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-07-06  6:24         ` 运辉崔
2023-07-06  6:41           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-07-06  6:55             ` 运辉崔
2023-07-06  6:44       ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-06  9:02         ` 运辉崔
2023-07-07 16:16   ` Conor Dooley
     [not found]     ` <CAN3iYbP_dQOOJKLjAf+pVeYUZRBqwZBG7eq6=pR0upsjT2GpOA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-08  3:04       ` [External] " 运辉崔
2023-07-08  8:09         ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-05 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Obtain SMBIOS and ACPI entry from FFI Palmer Dabbelt
2023-07-05 15:33   ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-06  2:04   ` [External] " 运辉崔
2023-07-06  8:53     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-07-06 15:32       ` Palmer Dabbelt
     [not found]         ` <CAP6exYKwZG=_47r0jAUFYNL5-P-SS==k6vWdKiMJ9nB0upH5Zw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-06 21:47           ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-06 21:53             ` ron minnich
2023-07-07  8:38           ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-07 10:43             ` Sunil V L
     [not found]               ` <CAN3iYbMhQU5Ng4r6_rQDnLmit1GCmheC5T49rsUP5NgHFEXsHA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-07 12:55                 ` Sunil V L
     [not found]                   ` <CAN3iYbOe+i4jVhz0sSQwVQ2PMB7UvaTPyN_sLtZj0uiOD2emDA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-07 16:07                     ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-07-07 16:18                       ` 葛士建
     [not found]                       ` <DBAPR08MB5783AED8329E38D840B7015D9C2DA@DBAPR08MB5783.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
2023-07-07 16:24                         ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-08  8:45                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-07-08 12:03                           ` Sunil V L
2023-07-08 15:19                           ` Dong Wei
2023-07-08 16:26                           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-07-10 16:03                           ` 葛士建
2023-09-07 12:15                             ` yunhui cui
     [not found]                       ` <DBAPR08MB57836AE63A1F5D3902B95BFE9C2DA@DBAPR08MB5783.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
2023-07-08  3:22                         ` 运辉崔
2023-07-08  3:58                           ` [External] " Jessica Clarke
2023-07-08  9:25                             ` 运辉崔

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20230707-gargle-enjoyable-f9f7f87fc7ea@spud \
    --to=conor@kernel.org \
    --cc=Dong.Wei@arm.com \
    --cc=allen-kh.cheng@mediatek.com \
    --cc=angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com \
    --cc=aou@eecs.berkeley.edu \
    --cc=ardb@kernel.org \
    --cc=conor.dooley@microchip.com \
    --cc=cuiyunhui@bytedance.com \
    --cc=geshijian@bytedance.com \
    --cc=jdelvare@suse.com \
    --cc=jrtc27@jrtc27.com \
    --cc=kernel@esmil.dk \
    --cc=lenb@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=lpieralisi@kernel.org \
    --cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
    --cc=palmer@dabbelt.com \
    --cc=paul.walmsley@sifive.com \
    --cc=pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=rminnich@gmail.com \
    --cc=sunilvl@ventanamicro.com \
    --cc=tinghan.shen@mediatek.com \
    --cc=weidong.wd@bytedance.com \
    --cc=yc.hung@mediatek.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox