From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/pci: Stop requiring ECAM to be declared in E820, ACPI or EFI
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:29:37 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240126192937.GA448790@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a4b2a119-ed12-4be8-ba75-4a046770efa7@amd.com>
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 12:32:34PM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 1/25/2024 18:35, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:53:50AM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > On 12/15/2023 16:03, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > > commit 7752d5cfe3d1 ("x86: validate against acpi motherboard resources")
> > > > introduced checks for ensuring that MCFG table also has memory region
> > > > reservations to ensure no conflicts were introduced from a buggy BIOS.
> ...
> > > Any thoughts on this version since our last conversation on V1?
> >
> > Just to let you know that I'm not ignoring this, and I'm trying to
> > formulate a useful response.
>
> Thanks, I had been wondering.
>
> FYI - we've also added another place to make noise about this ECAM
> issue in AMDGPU. This warning should go into 6.9:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20240110101319.695169-1-Jun.Ma2@amd.com/
Looks similar to the PCI core warning here:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/probe.c?id=v6.7#n1134
The comment says it doesn't work for devices on the root bus, though.
Maybe it could be made to work there as well?
> > mmconfig-shared.c has grown into an
> > extremely complicated mess and is a continual source of problems, so
> > I'd really like to untangle it a tiny bit if we can.
> >
> > One thing is that per spec, ACPI motherboard resources are the ONLY
> > way to reserve ECAM space. I'd like to reclaim a little clarity about
> > that and separate out the E820 and EFI stuff as secondary hacks. But
> > there's an insane amount of history that got us here.
>
> I guess you know better than anyone here. But if my idea is
> actually viable then the E820 and EFI stuff turn into "information
> only".
That would definitely be a good thing. I would like it if that were
more obvious from reading the code because I spend waaay too much time
staring at that labyrinth.
> > The problem we have to avoid is assigning a BAR that overlaps ECAM.
> > We assign BARs for lots of reasons. dGPU and resizable BARs are
> > examples but there are others, like hotplug and SR-IOV. The fact that
> > Windows works is a red herring because it allocates BARs differently.
>
> Have we actually observed a case that assigning the BAR overlaps
> ECAM region thus far or it's hypothetical?
Yes, it has happened. There's an example in the commit log here:
https://git.kernel.org/linus/070909e56a7d ("x86/pci: Reserve ECAM if
BIOS didn't include it in PNP0C02 _CRS")
> > And of course, if there's any way to solve this safely without
> > adding yet another kernel parameter, that would be vastly
> > preferable.
>
> The kernel isn't static though; something we could do is keep the
> parameter around a year or two to get the bug feedback loop of
> people testing it and then rip it out if nothing comes up.
Yeah. It's pretty hard to remove those options though. For example,
"pci=routeirq" was added in the pre-git era and probably isn't
necessary, but how do we know nobody uses it?
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-26 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-15 22:03 [PATCH v2] x86/pci: Stop requiring ECAM to be declared in E820, ACPI or EFI Mario Limonciello
2024-01-17 17:53 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-01-26 0:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-26 18:32 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-01-26 19:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2024-01-26 19:47 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-02-12 22:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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