From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Valette Eric Subject: Re: Re: making progress with ACPI was: ACPI small patch update Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:29:54 +0100 Sender: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org Message-ID: <3DBF0BE2.8020806@free.fr> References: <1035915803.1442.82.camel@U414> Reply-To: eric.valette-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Errors-To: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org Cc: Jan Rychter , Huw Hawkins List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org Jan Rychter wrote: > Huw> I think the answer to this question is obvious. People who want a > Huw> bug tracking system are people who'd like to get involved with the > Huw> project either as a tester or more actively. I disagree : I mostly use a bug tracking system when I encounter a bug to see if someone else got the same problem and if the fix is already availiable. Only there I start to try to debug something. I have run debian for than 5 years now, and their bug tracking system saved my ass several time... I just spend a few days really debugging things. I probably have spend already more time testing/debugging acpi and readding this mailling list... I complained about that in the list in the past and got an answer saying politely to shut up, to *not* use sourceforge tool, and post problem to the mailling list. Fortunately dominik spend some time helping me until it worked. I also complained about acpi patches beeing done for 2.4 pre releases and not applying cleanly on 2.4.X official kernels. > I strongly believe that the ACPI project would make much more progress > if Andy and Robert put a little effort into tracking bugs and making > releases. I do agree. The more people do not want other to look/critic their code, the more they pretend what they do is a kind of black art, and do not document it or make design document :-) Fixing bug is annoying, making a new release and advising to report a problem on it is so more fun. > If Andy and Bob don't want to use a bug-tracking system, there is no > way to force it. Just keep telling them to they should. That there is time for adding feature and time for fixing bugs and making software work. Now ACPI is one of the few area where windows XP performs far better than linux and it has not been yet accepted into 2.4.x due to lack of stability... -- __ / ` Eric Valette /-- __ o _. 6 rue Paul Le Flem (___, / (_(_(__ 35740 Pace Tel: +33 (0)2 99 85 26 76 Fax: +33 (0)2 99 85 26 76 E-mail: valette-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf