* SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
@ 2003-11-23 20:47 roychris
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From: roychris @ 2003-11-23 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi,
Since 2.6, when I read /proc/acpi/thermal/THR*/temperature and battery
info, my system spends too much time in SCI interrupt handler and it
loses the sync of my mouse, a synaptic. Any issue ?
thx
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@ 2003-12-01 18:28 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2003-12-01 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: roychris; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi!
> Since 2.6, when I read /proc/acpi/thermal/THR*/temperature and battery
> info, my system spends too much time in SCI interrupt handler and it
> loses the sync of my mouse, a synaptic. Any issue ?
Can you repeat it? Losing sync of mouse is probably a bug in inputs,
and should be fixed.
Pavel
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* RE: SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
@ 2003-12-03 3:36 Yu, Luming
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From: Yu, Luming @ 2003-12-03 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek, roychris; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
It sound like serious one, if SCI interrupt handler was blamed for this issue. --Luming
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Sent: 2003?12?2? 2:28
To: roychris
Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
Hi!
> Since 2.6, when I read /proc/acpi/thermal/THR*/temperature and battery
> info, my system spends too much time in SCI interrupt handler and it
> loses the sync of my mouse, a synaptic. Any issue ?
Can you repeat it? Losing sync of mouse is probably a bug in inputs,
and should be fixed.
Pavel
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@ 2003-12-03 12:41 ` roychris
2003-12-03 12:47 ` Pavel Machek
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From: roychris @ 2003-12-03 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I have contacted the developper of synaptic driver, and for sure it's
the fault of SCI interrupt handler.
I can reproduce it because I never lose sync when I don't access to
/proc/.../temperature and when I access it, exactly at the same time, I
lose the sync.
Yu, Luming wrote:
>It sound like serious one, if SCI interrupt handler was blamed for this issue. --Luming
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
>Sent: 2003?12?2? 2:28
>To: roychris
>Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
>
>
>Hi!
>
>
>
>>Since 2.6, when I read /proc/acpi/thermal/THR*/temperature and battery
>>info, my system spends too much time in SCI interrupt handler and it
>>loses the sync of my mouse, a synaptic. Any issue ?
>>
>>
>
>Can you repeat it? Losing sync of mouse is probably a bug in inputs,
>and should be fixed.
> Pavel
>
>
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2003-12-03 12:41 ` roychris
@ 2003-12-03 12:47 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2003-12-03 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yu, Luming; +Cc: roychris, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi!
> It sound like serious one, if SCI interrupt handler was blamed for
> this issue. --Luming
I investigated a bit, and interrupt latency alone is not enough to
break mouse. [Unfortunately, I do not have easy/sure way to reproduce
it.]
Is it possible that SCI interrupt handler accesses keyboard controller
(and breaks mouse?)
Pavel
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@ 2003-12-03 12:49 ` roychris
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From: roychris @ 2003-12-03 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: Yu, Luming, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
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Just a precision,
synaptic driver is not like the other mouses. psmouse call a specific
fonction for this touchpad that is in an other module.
The problem happens since 2.6, since psmouse and synaptic had been
seperated....
Pavel Machek wrote:
>Hi!
>
>
>
>>It sound like serious one, if SCI interrupt handler was blamed for
>>this issue. --Luming
>>
>>
>
>I investigated a bit, and interrupt latency alone is not enough to
>break mouse. [Unfortunately, I do not have easy/sure way to reproduce
>it.]
>
>Is it possible that SCI interrupt handler accesses keyboard controller
>(and breaks mouse?)
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>
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* RE: SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
@ 2003-12-04 3:44 Yu, Luming
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From: Yu, Luming @ 2003-12-04 3:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: roychris, Pavel Machek; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
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Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of this issue. --Luming
-----Original Message-----
From: roychris [mailto:roychris-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org]
Sent: 2003?12?3? 20:49
To: Pavel Machek
Cc: Yu, Luming; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
Just a precision,
synaptic driver is not like the other mouses. psmouse call a specific fonction for this touchpad that is in an other module.
The problem happens since 2.6, since psmouse and synaptic had been seperated....
Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
It sound like serious one, if SCI interrupt handler was blamed for
this issue. --Luming
I investigated a bit, and interrupt latency alone is not enough to
break mouse. [Unfortunately, I do not have easy/sure way to reproduce
it.]
Is it possible that SCI interrupt handler accesses keyboard controller
(and breaks mouse?)
Pavel
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@ 2003-12-04 8:25 ` roychris
2003-12-04 9:53 ` Pavel Machek
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From: roychris @ 2003-12-04 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yu, Luming; +Cc: Pavel Machek, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
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Personally, I think so.
Yu, Luming a écrit :
> Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
> this issue. --Luming
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* roychris [mailto:roychris-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org]
> *Sent:* 2003?12?3? 20:49
> *To:* Pavel Machek
> *Cc:* Yu, Luming; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
>
> Just a precision,
> synaptic driver is not like the other mouses. psmouse call a
> specific fonction for this touchpad that is in an other module.
> The problem happens since 2.6, since psmouse and synaptic had been
> seperated....
>
> Pavel Machek wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>
>>
>>>It sound like serious one, if SCI interrupt handler was blamed for
>>>this issue. --Luming
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I investigated a bit, and interrupt latency alone is not enough to
>>break mouse. [Unfortunately, I do not have easy/sure way to reproduce
>>it.]
>>
>>Is it possible that SCI interrupt handler accesses keyboard controller
>>(and breaks mouse?)
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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2003-12-04 8:25 ` roychris
@ 2003-12-04 9:53 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2003-12-04 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yu, Luming
Cc: roychris, Pavel Machek,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi!
> Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
> this issue. --Luming
It certainly looks so. Is it possible that SCI handler touches
keyboard controller?
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* RE: SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
@ 2003-12-08 3:21 Yu, Luming
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From: Yu, Luming @ 2003-12-08 3:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: roychris, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
To SCI handler itself, I don't think keyboard controller will be touched. But SCI handler could evaluate some AML method which could touch keyboard controller. --Luming
-----Original Message-----
From: Pavel Machek [mailto:pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org]
Sent: 2003?12?4? 17:53
To: Yu, Luming
Cc: roychris; Pavel Machek; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
Hi!
> Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
> this issue. --Luming
It certainly looks so. Is it possible that SCI handler touches
keyboard controller?
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* RE: SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
@ 2003-12-08 3:35 Li, Shaohua
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From: Li, Shaohua @ 2003-12-08 3:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek, roychris; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi,
As I knew, some systems use keyboard controller to implement EC (I'm not sure, but some materials said). Maybe the error it's caused by EC, so I recommend you to try the patch in http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433.
Thanks,
Shaohua
> -----Original Message-----
> From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-
> admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Yu, Luming
> Sent: 2003年12月8日 11:21
> To: Pavel Machek
> Cc: roychris; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> Subject: RE: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
>
> To SCI handler itself, I don't think keyboard controller will be touched.
> But SCI handler could evaluate some AML method which could touch keyboard
> controller. --Luming
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pavel Machek [mailto:pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org]
> Sent: 2003?12?4? 17:53
> To: Yu, Luming
> Cc: roychris; Pavel Machek; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
>
>
> Hi!
>
> > Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
> > this issue. --Luming
>
> It certainly looks so. Is it possible that SCI handler touches
> keyboard controller?
>
> --
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2003-12-08 9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yu, Luming; +Cc: roychris, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi!
> To SCI handler itself, I don't think keyboard controller will be touched. But SCI handler could evaluate some AML method which could touch keyboard controller. --Luming
>
Would that be a bug in AML method? Or how is keyboard-controller
access locked between OS and ACPI?
Pavel
> > Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
> > this issue. --Luming
>
> It certainly looks so. Is it possible that SCI handler touches
> keyboard controller?
>
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@ 2003-12-08 10:00 ` roychris
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From: roychris @ 2003-12-08 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
Sorry, it doesn't resolve my problem.
Li, Shaohua a écrit:
>Hi,
>As I knew, some systems use keyboard controller to implement EC (I'm not sure, but some materials said). Maybe the error it's caused by EC, so I recommend you to try the patch in http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433.
>
>Thanks,
>Shaohua
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-
>>admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Yu, Luming
>>Sent: 2003年12月8日 11:21
>>To: Pavel Machek
>>Cc: roychris; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>>Subject: RE: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
>>
>>To SCI handler itself, I don't think keyboard controller will be touched.
>>But SCI handler could evaluate some AML method which could touch keyboard
>>controller. --Luming
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Pavel Machek [mailto:pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org]
>>Sent: 2003?12?4? 17:53
>>To: Yu, Luming
>>Cc: roychris; Pavel Machek; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>>Subject: Re: [ACPI] SCI interrupt handler : spend too much time
>>
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
>>> this issue. --Luming
>>>
>>>
>>It certainly looks so. Is it possible that SCI handler touches
>>keyboard controller?
>>
>>--
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From: roychris @ 2003-12-08 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I have no rule about mouse or keyboard in my aml code.
Pavel Machek a écrit :
>Hi!
>
>
>
>>To SCI handler itself, I don't think keyboard controller will be touched. But SCI handler could evaluate some AML method which could touch keyboard controller. --Luming
>>
>>
>>
>
>Would that be a bug in AML method? Or how is keyboard-controller
>access locked between OS and ACPI?
> Pavel
>
>
>
>>> Does it mean the overhead of SCI interrupt was not the root cause of
>>> this issue. --Luming
>>>
>>>
>>It certainly looks so. Is it possible that SCI handler touches
>>keyboard controller?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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2003-12-03 3:36 Yu, Luming
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2003-12-03 12:41 ` roychris
2003-12-03 12:47 ` Pavel Machek
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2003-12-03 12:49 ` roychris
2003-12-04 3:44 Yu, Luming
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2003-12-04 8:25 ` roychris
2003-12-04 9:53 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-08 3:21 Yu, Luming
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2003-12-08 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
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2003-12-08 10:05 ` roychris
2003-12-08 3:35 Li, Shaohua
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