From: Bas Mevissen <ml-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
To: "Brown, Len" <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Scott T. Smith" <scott-j3vAvQ9dNB9ByuSxxbvQtw@public.gmane.org>,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 12:34:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40222A37.6030401@basmevissen.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8AB6-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
Brown, Len wrote:
> The strategy is to improve ACPI on Linux such that all Linux distros are
> able to successfully ship ACPI enabled kernels.
>
> When we reach that stage, the OEMs will use these commercial Linux
> products when they validate their platforms -- fixing DSDT problems
> themselves before the 1st BIOS is released to the public.
>
> Thus the long term strategy is for zero DSDT over-rides.
>
Linux-ACPI will only become mainstream when it runs out-of-the-box on
most computers. Until then, it will remain troublesome...
So the choice is to stick to the standard or to be smarter. Yes, it will
not help fixing the DSDT's. But the only real solution to that is what
I've written below.
> Re: what does windows do?
> Windows doesn't have to do anything. By being first to ship ACPI, that
> implementation provided the defacto ACPI compliance test to which all
> BIOS' are tested -- even if that implementation is not ACPI spec
> compliant. No, only under dire circumstances will we emulate Windows
> bugs in Linux.
>
ACPI committee did not push a proper validation program. It's like the
web "standards": standards are therem but everybody tests with IE and
most web developers are satisfied when it works with it...
ACPI committee should make a proper validation mandatory before a
computer may be sold as "ACPI X.Y compliant". Then manufacturers can
test against (open) validation platform and Linux-ACPI can be validated
against it too.
Bas.
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-05 5:15 RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT Brown, Len
[not found] ` <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8AB6-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 6:55 ` Scott T. Smith
[not found] ` <1075964148.5017.7.camel-3lu5YwujmwObGSPjaX/RoA@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 10:00 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-02-09 20:29 ` Nate Lawson
[not found] ` <20040209122256.K74314-Y6VGUYTwhu0@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-09 21:23 ` Len Brown
2004-02-11 16:37 ` ACPI_STRICT_COMPLIANCE (was RE: RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT) Len Brown
[not found] ` <1076517428.12955.32.camel-D2Zvc0uNKG8@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-11 17:51 ` Nate Lawson
2004-02-12 10:19 ` RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT Bruno Ducrot
2004-02-05 7:29 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20040205082926.660974d2.ak-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 12:09 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-05 11:34 ` Bas Mevissen [this message]
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2004-02-11 6:31 Yu, Luming
2004-02-05 14:33 Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)
[not found] ` <C50AB9511EE59B49B2A503CB7AE1ABD1066111ED-Iar2LzuD2f6P0FQRY6S+e9kSKC0Mw0DFJ8am2ALHCgk@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 15:19 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20040205161923.37eebc64.ak-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 16:07 ` Bas Mevissen
[not found] ` <40226A58.5080004-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 16:24 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20040205172405.01777986.ak-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 17:15 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-05 15:55 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-06 19:33 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-02-05 8:10 Brown, Len
[not found] ` <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8AB9-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 8:58 ` Luca Capello
[not found] ` <402205B0.3000607-wlebWZzHoyE@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 22:43 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-02-05 15:44 ` Scott T. Smith
[not found] ` <1075995857.5758.43.camel-3lu5YwujmwObGSPjaX/RoA@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 16:13 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-04 7:22 Brown, Len
[not found] ` <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8A9F-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-04 7:49 ` Arjen Verweij
2004-02-05 2:18 ` Scott T. Smith
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