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From: Nathan Bryant <nbryant-p32f3XyCuykqcZcGjlUOXw@public.gmane.org>
To: "Pallipadi,
	Venkatesh"
	<venkatesh.pallipadi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Li,
	Shaohua" <shaohua.li-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Patrick Mochel
	<mochel-og82NyAXoxR0I81aPRRTmR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>,
	acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH] sysdev suspend/resume order?
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:26:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41210A73.7000101@optonline.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88056F38E9E48644A0F562A38C64FB60029C689B-exJ48ZlmiLpQxe9IK+vIArfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

Pallipadi, Venkatesh wrote:
>  
> Problem:
> Most of the sysdev_register calls in various devices
> are being done using device_initcalls. This method of 
> initialization has a side-effect, as we loose the 
> ordering requirements for various resume calls. 
> Order in which _resume() functions gets called during 
> a resume, just depends on the order device_initcalls 
> were called on these devices.
> 
> Shaohua's mail below describes one issue that is a 
> result of this problem, where in pci link device get 
> initialized before PIC. There can be more issues 
> like this.

Actually, the PCI links are initialized from a subsys_initcall, which is 
not to be confused with a device_initcall, and anyway the PCI links 
don't have their own suspend/resume callbacks unless you're using a 
specific patch that I posted.

Maybe the problem you guys are thinking of has to do with PIC/APIC and 
PIT resume order?

> 
> One solution to this problem:
> Call the sysdev_registers during the actual device 
> initialization. Say, i8259 sysdev_register should be 
> called when i8259 device is getting registered and 
> not with a device_initcall 'sometime' later.
> 
> With this, we will be able to save the original 
> device initialization order (bootup order), and call 
> the resume methods in the same order.
> 
> Attached are the couple of sample patches that does 
> this in particular files.
> 
> Questions:
> Is this solution proper?

I think that's dubious. Haven't looked at your patch yet, but... if you 
call sysdev_register from with an ACPI subsys_initcall you will run into 
some sort of data structure corruption and your kernel will fail to boot.

Also, some of the devices you refer to are initialized from 
subsys_initcall's anyway, and I assume that the order of those is also 
somewhat undefined.

> Is there any better solution to this problem? Say 
> introducing some sort of levels in device_initcall.
> If the above soultion is proper, is it 
> practical/feasible to audit all usages of 
> sysdev_register() and try to move it to the 
> device initialization function?
> 
> Thanks,
> Venki
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Pallipadi, Venkatesh 
>>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:58 AM
>>To: Li, Shaohua; 'Patrick Mochel'
>>Cc: 'acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org'; Brown, Len
>>Subject: RE: sysdev suspend/resume order?
>>
>>
>>
>>I think, there should be a relation between the order
>>in which actual device initialization happens during 
>>the boot time and the order in which device initcalls 
>>are called (at boot time).
>>
>>In this example, actual PIC initialization happens 
>>before pci_link device initialization. So, device 
>>initcall should have a similar ordering. That will 
>>take care of this after S3 ordering in a natural manner.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Venki 
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Li, Shaohua 
>>>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:37 AM
>>>To: Patrick Mochel
>>>Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org; Brown, Len; Pallipadi, Venkatesh
>>>Subject: sysdev suspend/resume order?
>>>
>>>Patrick,
>>>My sound card dies after S3 sometimes. Basically, if it dies 
>>>depends on the order of sysdev's resume. If IRQ router resume 
>>>before PIC (I use a tricky method to change order. It's 
>>>changing the initcall level of the sysfs initialization for 
>>>the device), the sound card die. Otherwise, it works. Is it 
>>>possible that we add some levels for sysdev? I'd like some 
>>>sysdevs resume before other sysdevs. Does this make sense? 
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Shaohua
>>>
>>



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-16 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-16 19:04 [RFC, PATCH] sysdev suspend/resume order? Pallipadi, Venkatesh
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2004-08-16 19:26   ` Nathan Bryant [this message]
     [not found]     ` <41210A73.7000101-p32f3XyCuykqcZcGjlUOXw@public.gmane.org>
2004-08-16 19:39       ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-16 20:15   ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-16 20:17 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
     [not found] ` <88056F38E9E48644A0F562A38C64FB60029C6914-exJ48ZlmiLpQxe9IK+vIArfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2004-08-16 20:47   ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-16 21:01 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2004-08-17  2:05 Li, Shaohua

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