* Samsung P35
@ 2004-11-12 10:20 Oliver Dawid
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From: Oliver Dawid @ 2004-11-12 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi there,
hopefully this is the right list to discuss my problem.
since two weeks I am owner of a Samsung P35 XVM 1600. I succeeded to
install debian sarge with kernel 2.6.8 only by providing nolacpi as
kernel parameter. I thought this would switch off acpi but I got several
ACPI messages on boot time like:
---snip---
ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @ 0x000f6620
ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTD CooperSp 0x06040000 LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x1ff76959
ACPI: FADT (v001 INTEL ODEM 0x06040000 PTL 0x00000050) @ 0x1ff7bed2
ACPI: BOOT (v001 PTLTD $SBFTBL$ 0x06040000 LTP 0x00000001) @ 0x1ff7bfd8
ACPI: SSDT (v001 INTEL EISTRef 0x00000001 INTL 0x02002015) @ 0x1ff76989
ACPI: DSDT (v001 INTEL ODEM 0x06040000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
...
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:1f.1
PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 28)
ACPI: Power Resource [CFN1] (off)
---snip---
and so on. Everything looks quite well. So what does this parameter
nolapic?
My problem:
Suspend does not work. Neither Fn + Sleep Key nor echo mem|disk >
/sys/.../state
mem does something - display is switching to text mode but returns
immediately.
As I read about problem with suspend-to-* on P30, I thought its a good
idea to edit the dsdt to correct a call for suspend.
So in a second step I built my own kernel (kernel-source-2.6.8 from
debian distrib) with initrd patch to load my own dsdt. I dumped the dsdt
corrected all warnings an errors and cat it to the end of my initrd.
Here is the result:
---snip---
or: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0),
AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D1._STA] (Node dff279a0), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D1._STA] (Node dff279a0), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
...
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
...
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
...
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1d.2[C] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
...
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.6[B] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
...
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:02.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ipw2200: ipw2200_boot.fw load failed
ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: 0xFFFFFFFE
ipw2200: failed to register network device
ipw2200: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -5
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
ACPI: AC Adapter [AC0] (on-line)
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_PR_.CPU0._PPC]
(Node c1705d00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1)
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Lid Switch [LID0]
ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB]
ACPI: Fan [FAN1] (off)
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_TZ_.THRM._TMP]
(Node dff24480), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
...
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.SWSM] (Node
c17055e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.SWSM] (Node
c17055e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.SWSM] (Node
c17055e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
---snip---
the last few messages occur when I try to change display brightness. The
fan isn't working any more - this is maybe because the kernel isn't able
to access the corresponding acpi funcion any more.
I wasn't able to get the beginning of the dmesg buffer because it was
alredy rolled out.
Can anyone help me interpret this? What the hell went wron? The built in
dsdt is damaged but it succeeds to handle a lot of acpi events. My own
one compiled without any warning or error seems to be badly damaged,
nearly each call fails on several errors.
I now got a vanilla kernel 2.6.9 and start compiling but there went
something wrong with DRM so this is still in progress (btw. I could not
find any cramfs patch for 2.6.9 any more, is this path obsolete for 2.6?
and even more, debian is using a bunch of patches, which of them are
really necessary, any idea?)
Where do I need to start at?
Thanks for any hints,
Oliver
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* RE: Samsung P35
@ 2004-11-12 11:23 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
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0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Starikovskiy, Alexey Y @ 2004-11-12 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Dawid, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi,
nolapic means turning off use of Local APIC (Advanced Programmable
Interrupt Controller), present in any Pentium processor. It has nothing
to do with ACPI (stands for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface).
Cheers,
Alex.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-
>admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Dawid
>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:21 PM
>To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: [ACPI] Samsung P35
>
>Hi there,
>
>hopefully this is the right list to discuss my problem.
>
>since two weeks I am owner of a Samsung P35 XVM 1600. I succeeded to
>install debian sarge with kernel 2.6.8 only by providing nolacpi as
>kernel parameter. I thought this would switch off acpi but I got
several
>ACPI messages on boot time like:
>
>---snip---
>ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @
0x000f6620
>ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTD CooperSp 0x06040000 LTP 0x00000000) @
0x1ff76959
>ACPI: FADT (v001 INTEL ODEM 0x06040000 PTL 0x00000050) @
0x1ff7bed2
>ACPI: BOOT (v001 PTLTD $SBFTBL$ 0x06040000 LTP 0x00000001) @
0x1ff7bfd8
>ACPI: SSDT (v001 INTEL EISTRef 0x00000001 INTL 0x02002015) @
0x1ff76989
>ACPI: DSDT (v001 INTEL ODEM 0x06040000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @
0x00000000
>ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
>...
>ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
>ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.
>ACPI: Interpreter enabled
>ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
>ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
>PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
>PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:1f.1
>PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB._PRT]
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB._PRT]
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 11 12 14 15)
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 11 12 14 15)
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 11 12 14 15)
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 *11 12 14 15)
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 14 15) *0,
>disabled.
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 14 15) *0,
>disabled.
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 14 15) *0,
>disabled.
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 *11 12 14 15)
>ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 28)
>ACPI: Power Resource [CFN1] (off)
>---snip---
>
>and so on. Everything looks quite well. So what does this parameter
>nolapic?
>
>My problem:
>Suspend does not work. Neither Fn + Sleep Key nor echo mem|disk >
>/sys/.../state
>
>mem does something - display is switching to text mode but returns
>immediately.
>
>As I read about problem with suspend-to-* on P30, I thought its a good
>idea to edit the dsdt to correct a call for suspend.
>
>So in a second step I built my own kernel (kernel-source-2.6.8 from
>debian distrib) with initrd patch to load my own dsdt. I dumped the
dsdt
>corrected all warnings an errors and cat it to the end of my initrd.
>
>Here is the result:
>---snip---
>or: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node
dff273e0),
>AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40),
AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40),
AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D1._STA] (Node dff279a0),
AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D1._STA] (Node dff279a0),
AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
>...
>ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
>...
>ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
>...
>ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1d.2[C] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
>...
>ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.6[B] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
>...
>ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:02.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
>ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
>ipw2200: ipw2200_boot.fw load failed
>ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: 0xFFFFFFFE
>ipw2200: failed to register network device
>ipw2200: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -5
>ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
>ACPI: AC Adapter [AC0] (on-line)
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_PR_.CPU0._PPC]
>(Node c1705d00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
>ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1)
>ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
>ACPI: Lid Switch [LID0]
>ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB]
>ACPI: Fan [FAN1] (off)
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_TZ_.THRM._TMP]
>(Node dff24480), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
>...
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.SWSM] (Node
>c17055e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.SWSM] (Node
>c17055e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.SWSM] (Node
>c17055e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>[\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
>---snip---
>
>the last few messages occur when I try to change display brightness.
The
>fan isn't working any more - this is maybe because the kernel isn't
able
>to access the corresponding acpi funcion any more.
>
>I wasn't able to get the beginning of the dmesg buffer because it was
>alredy rolled out.
>
>Can anyone help me interpret this? What the hell went wron? The built
in
>dsdt is damaged but it succeeds to handle a lot of acpi events. My own
>one compiled without any warning or error seems to be badly damaged,
>nearly each call fails on several errors.
>
>I now got a vanilla kernel 2.6.9 and start compiling but there went
>something wrong with DRM so this is still in progress (btw. I could not
>find any cramfs patch for 2.6.9 any more, is this path obsolete for
2.6?
>and even more, debian is using a bunch of patches, which of them are
>really necessary, any idea?)
>
>Where do I need to start at?
>
>Thanks for any hints,
>Oliver
>
>
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* Re: Samsung P35
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@ 2004-11-12 15:01 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-12 17:44 ` Bruno Ducrot
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2004-11-12 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Dawid; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi!
> since two weeks I am owner of a Samsung P35 XVM 1600. I succeeded to
> install debian sarge with kernel 2.6.8 only by providing nolacpi as
> kernel parameter. I thought this would switch off acpi but I got several
> ACPI messages on boot time like:
nolacpi is typo. You want acpi=off?
> My problem:
> Suspend does not work. Neither Fn + Sleep Key nor echo mem|disk >
> /sys/.../state
>
> mem does something - display is switching to text mode but returns
> immediately.
Do you have swap file and kernel command line set up correctly? dmesg
after attempt?
Pavel
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* Re: Samsung P35
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@ 2004-11-12 15:29 ` Oliver Dawid
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Dawid @ 2004-11-12 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Starikovskiy, Alexey Y; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Hi,
Starikovskiy, Alexey Y wrote:
> nolapic means turning off use of Local APIC (Advanced Programmable
> Interrupt Controller), present in any Pentium processor. It has nothing
> to do with ACPI (stands for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface).
ok my fault I did not look close enough on that parameter stuff. But this
only answers the first of my questions. Any idea, why I get so much errors
on my fixed dsdt?
>> My problem:
>> Suspend does not work. Neither Fn + Sleep Key nor echo mem|disk >
>> /sys/.../state
>>
>> mem does something - display is switching to text mode but returns
>> immediately.
>>
>> As I read about problem with suspend-to-* on P30, I thought its a good
>> idea to edit the dsdt to correct a call for suspend.
>>
>> So in a second step I built my own kernel (kernel-source-2.6.8 from
>> debian distrib) with initrd patch to load my own dsdt. I dumped the
>> dsdt corrected all warnings an errors and cat it to the end of my initrd.
>>
>> Here is the result:
>> ---snip---
>> or: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0),
>> AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
>> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
>> [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
>> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>> [\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40),
>> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
>> [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q69] (Node dff26c00), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
>> ---snip---
>>
>> the last few messages occur when I try to change display brightness.
>> The fan isn't working any more - this is maybe because the kernel isn't
>> able to access the corresponding acpi funcion any more.
>>
>> I wasn't able to get the beginning of the dmesg buffer because it was
>> alredy rolled out.
>>
>> Can anyone help me interpret this? What the hell went wron? The built
>> indsdt is damaged but it succeeds to handle a lot of acpi events. My own
>> one compiled without any warning or error seems to be badly damaged,
>> nearly each call fails on several errors.
>>
>> I now got a vanilla kernel 2.6.9 and start compiling but there went
>> something wrong with DRM so this is still in progress (btw. I could not
>> find any cramfs patch for 2.6.9 any more, is this path obsolete for 2.6
>> and even more, debian is using a bunch of patches, which of them are
>> really necessary, any idea?)
>>
>> Where do I need to start at?
Bye,
Oliver
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* Re: Samsung P35
[not found] ` <41948E80.5030207-csNNzRR391izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2004-11-12 15:01 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2004-11-12 17:44 ` Bruno Ducrot
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bruno Ducrot @ 2004-11-12 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Dawid; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
>
> Here is the result:
> ---snip---
> or: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0),
> AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
> [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2M._STA] (Node dff273e0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
> [\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
> [\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D0._STA] (Node dff27a40), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed
> [\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D1._STA] (Node dff279a0), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed
> [\_SB_.PCI0.IDEC.SECD.S_D1._STA] (Node dff279a0), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
> ...
Sound like current iasl is broken. Could you please post the
DSDT.aml obtained privately to me?
Cheers,
--
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