* Re: bluetooth button is dead
@ 2004-12-21 15:03 Johan Vromans
[not found] ` <20041221150316.14A5D9DA3B-KjnUIgV0B0bak1Ioo/c9IoRWq/SkRNHw@public.gmane.org>
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From: Johan Vromans @ 2004-12-21 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Ultrakorne wrote:
> Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e056 <keycode>' to make it known
This is quite normal. When you press the WiFi button, you'll see
similar messages (with different eXXX codes).
On my TravelMate 4000WLMi, WiFi works like a charm, and the WiFi
button works as well. Haven't tried BlueTooth.
I've used the setkeycodes program to assign key codes, and use
xbindkeys to intercept the codes to generate on screen display
messages.
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
[not found] ` <20041221150316.14A5D9DA3B-KjnUIgV0B0bak1Ioo/c9IoRWq/SkRNHw@public.gmane.org>
@ 2004-12-21 15:25 ` Pedro Venda
2004-12-21 17:21 ` Johan Vromans
2004-12-21 15:28 ` Zdzisław A. Kaleta
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From: Pedro Venda @ 2004-12-21 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johan Vromans; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Johan Vromans wrote:
> Ultrakorne wrote:
>
>>Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
>>atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e056 <keycode>' to make it known
>
>
> This is quite normal. When you press the WiFi button, you'll see
> similar messages (with different eXXX codes).
> On my TravelMate 4000WLMi, WiFi works like a charm, and the WiFi
> button works as well. Haven't tried BlueTooth.
but does it return such a message? mine does.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
regards,
pedro venda.
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
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2004-12-21 15:25 ` Pedro Venda
@ 2004-12-21 15:28 ` Zdzisław A. Kaleta
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From: Zdzisław A. Kaleta @ 2004-12-21 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Dnia wtorek 21 grudnia 2004 16:03, Johan Vromans napisał:
> I've used the setkeycodes program to assign key codes, and use
> xbindkeys to intercept the codes to generate on screen display
> messages.
May You send details to the greenhorns?
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
2004-12-21 15:25 ` Pedro Venda
@ 2004-12-21 17:21 ` Johan Vromans
[not found] ` <16840.23466.968238.615803-KjnUIgV0B0bak1Ioo/c9IoRWq/SkRNHw@public.gmane.org>
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From: Johan Vromans @ 2004-12-21 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pedro Venda; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
[Quoting Pedro Venda, on December 21 2004, 15:25, in "Re: [ACPI] Re: bluet"]
> but does it return such a message? mine does.
>
> atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
> atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
Yes, it does. When I press the BlueTooth button I get a e058, and the
WiFi button alternates e055 (On) and e056 (Off). This is a TravelMate
4001WLMi; your actual codes can differ.
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* Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-21 19:03 ` Johan Vromans
[not found] ` <m2hdmflbhe.fsf-KjnUIgV0B0bak1Ioo/c9IoRWq/SkRNHw@public.gmane.org>
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From: Johan Vromans @ 2004-12-21 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sanskryt-FWhLrETftxM; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
"Zdzisław A. Kaleta" <sanskryt-FWhLrETftxM@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Dnia wtorek 21 grudnia 2004 16:03, Johan Vromans napisał:
>> I've used the setkeycodes program to assign key codes, and use
>> xbindkeys to intercept the codes to generate on screen display
>> messages.
> May You send details to the greenhorns?
Sure. Does this list accept attachments?
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* Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-21 19:14 ` Zdzisław A. Kaleta
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From: Zdzisław A. Kaleta @ 2004-12-21 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johan Vromans, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Dnia wtorek 21 grudnia 2004 20:03, napisałeś:
> "Zdzisław A. Kaleta" <sanskryt-FWhLrETftxM@public.gmane.org> writes:
> > Dnia wtorek 21 grudnia 2004 16:03, Johan Vromans napisał:
> >> I've used the setkeycodes program to assign key codes, and use
> >> xbindkeys to intercept the codes to generate on screen display
> >> messages.
> >
> > May You send details to the greenhorns?
>
> Sure. Does this list accept attachments?
>
> -- Johan
I think the answer is yes. Just try.
Please for security cc it to my priv ;-)
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* Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-21 19:37 ` Johan Vromans
[not found] ` <200412212042.56854.juris@juris.com.pl>
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From: Johan Vromans @ 2004-12-21 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sanskryt-FWhLrETftxM; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 665 bytes --]
"Zdzisław A. Kaleta" <sanskryt-FWhLrETftxM@public.gmane.org> writes:
> I think the answer is yes. Just try.
> Please for security cc it to my priv ;-)
Okay. Attached is "acer_keys", a script to run at boot time to map all
unmapped Acer specific keys to keycodes.
Note that the key code set is different from the one received by X,
but that seems to be a known problem.
Also attached is ".xbindkeysrc", a bindkeys configuration to intercept
some of these keys and do something.
xbindkeys is probably on your computer already, if not, use Google.
xosd is a small script (attached) that uses osd-cat (Google) to show
on-screen message.
Have phun!
[-- Attachment #2: acer key settings --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 1649 bytes --]
#!/bin/bash
#
# chkconfig: 2345 55 25
# description: Acer TravelMate 4001 Key codes
#
# source function library
. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
RETVAL=0
start()
{
echo -n $"Setting Acer TravelMate key codes: "
# Set valid keycodes for all additional keys of the Acer TravelMate 4001.
# WARNING: The key code set is not always the one returned by X event!
# Euro-key near the cursor block
setkeycodes e033 89 # X: 211
# $-key near the cursor block
setkeycodes e034 90 # X: 128
# WiFi/RF [front of the latptop]
setkeycodes e055 88 # on, X: 96
setkeycodes e056 91 # off, X: 127
# Bluetooth [front of the laptop]
setkeycodes e058 92 # X: 129
# "p" key [near power button]
setkeycodes e073 93 # X: 208
# "e" key [near power button]
setkeycodes e074 94 # X: 131
# "Planet" key [near power button]
# keycode 178
# "Mail" key [near power button]
# keycode 236
# Fn F1 [?]
setkeycodes e025 140 # X: 161
# Fn F2 [ ]
setkeycodes e026 141 # X: 108
# Fn F3 [ ]
setkeycodes e027 142 # X: 109
# Fn F4 [Zz]
# ACPI button/sleep SLPB event
# Fn F5 [Video Aux]
setkeycodes e029 143 # X: 227
# Fn F6 [Display Backlight]
# -- no key/event --
# Fn F7 [Touchpad on]
setkeycodes e071 144 # X: 198
# Fn F7 [Touchpad off]
setkeycodes e072 145 # X: 199
# Fn F8 [Mute]
# keycode 160
# Fn Up [Vol incr]
# keycode 176
# Fn Left [Display darker]
# keycode 239
# Fn Down [Vol decr]
# keycode 174
# Fn Right [Display brighter]
setkeycodes e06e 238 # X: 243
# Panel close
# ACPI button/lib LID event
success
echo
}
case "$1" in
start)
start
;;
stop)
;;
restart)
start
;;
reload)
reload
;;
*)
echo $"Usage: $0 {start|stop}"
RETVAL=1
esac
exit $RETVAL
[-- Attachment #3: .xbindkeysrc --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 442 bytes --]
# For the benefit of emacs users: -*- shell-script -*-
"xbk_aumix incr"
c:176
"xbk_aumix decr"
c:174
"xbk_aumix mute"
c:160
"echo Touchpad Off | xosd -- -"
c:199
"echo Touchpad On | xosd -- -"
c:198
"echo Display: Darker | xosd -- -"
c:239
"echo Display: Brighter | xosd -- -"
c:243
"echo WiFi Off | xosd -- -"
c:127
"echo WiFi On | xosd -- -"
c:96
"echo BlueTooth | xosd -- -"
c:129
"xbk_sysinfo info"
c:161
[-- Attachment #4: xosd --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 285 bytes --]
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/osd_cat \
--font='-b&h-lucidasans-bold-r-normal-sans-0-480-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1' \
--font='-b&h-luxi sans-bold-r-normal--0-480-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1' \
--shadow=1 \
--color=green \
--pos=middle \
--align=center \
--delay=2 \
${1+"$@"}
[-- Attachment #5: xbk_aumix --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 750 bytes --]
#!/bin/sh
cd $HOME
action=$1; shift
killall -q osd_cat > /dev/null 2>&1
get_volume() {
volume=`aumix -q | sed -ne 's/^vol \([^,]*\).*/\1/p'`
}
show_volume() {
xosd --text Volume:\ $1 --barmode=percentage --percentage=$1
}
case "$action" in
incr)
delta=${1:-5}
rm -f .mutevol
aumix -v +$delta
get_volume
show_volume $volume
;;
decr)
delta=${1:-5}
rm -f .mutevol
aumix -v -$delta
get_volume
show_volume $volume
;;
mute)
if [ -s .mutevol ]
then
vol=`cat .mutevol`
rm -f .mutevol
aumix -v $vol
# echo "Volume: $vol" | xosd -- -
show_volume $vol
else
get_volume
[ $volume != 0 ] && echo $volume > .mutevol
aumix -v 0
echo "Volume: muted" | xosd -- -
fi
;;
esac
[-- Attachment #6: xbk_sysinfo --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 471 bytes --]
#!/bin/sh
cd $HOME
action=$1; shift
killall -q osd_cat > /dev/null 2>&1
case "$action" in
info)
thrm=/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM
fan=/proc/acpi/fan
power=/proc/acpi/processor
(
sed -ne 's/^active state: *\(.*\)/CPU state: \1/p' $power/CPU*/power
sed -e 's/ */ /g' $thrm/temperature
sed -e 's/ */ /g' $thrm/state
sed -e 's/ / /g' $thrm/cooling_mode
sed -e 's/status: */fan: /' $fan/FAN*/state
)| xosd --lines=6 --delay=3 -- -
;;
esac
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* Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-21 20:08 ` Johan Vromans
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From: Johan Vromans @ 2004-12-21 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: juris-DO2cFn/OelIEUmgCuDUIdw; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
[Quoting Zdzisław A. Kaleta, on December 21 2004, 20:42, in "Re: bluetooth button"]
> Thank.
> I have exactly the same model of Acer TM as You. So may be at last I should
> not go to windows (changing harddisk) to swich killswitch off ;-)
> May be you have also find some solving to "smart battery"problem?
No. That's why I'm lurking around in the ACPI devel list ;-).
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-21 23:16 ` Pedro Venda
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From: Pedro Venda @ 2004-12-21 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johan Vromans
Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f,
juris-DO2cFn/OelIEUmgCuDUIdw
Johan Vromans wrote:
> [Quoting Zdzisław A. Kaleta, on December 21 2004, 20:42, in "Re: bluetooth button"]
>
>>Thank.
>>I have exactly the same model of Acer TM as You. So may be at last I should
>>not go to windows (changing harddisk) to swich killswitch off ;-)
>>May be you have also find some solving to "smart battery"problem?
>
>
> No. That's why I'm lurking around in the ACPI devel list ;-).
hehehe, that seems to be a common reason for some of us. shame on us for
buying such laptops! :-)
regards,
pedro venda.
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-22 0:01 ` David Gómez
2004-12-22 0:27 ` Pedro Venda
2004-12-22 10:35 ` Johan Vromans
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From: David Gómez @ 2004-12-22 0:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pedro Venda
Cc: Johan Vromans, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f,
juris-DO2cFn/OelIEUmgCuDUIdw
Hi all ;),
> >>I have exactly the same model of Acer TM as You. So may be at last I
> >>should not go to windows (changing harddisk) to swich killswitch off ;-)
> >>May be you have also find some solving to "smart battery"problem?
> >
> >No. That's why I'm lurking around in the ACPI devel list ;-).
>
> hehehe, that seems to be a common reason for some of us. shame on us for
> buying such laptops! :-)
No, i'm very happy with it, really ;). And it seems a laptop model
which several linux users choosed to buy, acpi-devel is full of them :)).
regards,
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
2004-12-22 0:01 ` David Gómez
@ 2004-12-22 0:27 ` Pedro Venda
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From: Pedro Venda @ 2004-12-22 0:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Gómez
Cc: Pedro Venda, Johan Vromans,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f,
juris-DO2cFn/OelIEUmgCuDUIdw
David Gómez wrote:
> Hi all ;),
>
>
>>>>I have exactly the same model of Acer TM as You. So may be at last I
>>>>should not go to windows (changing harddisk) to swich killswitch off ;-)
>>>>May be you have also find some solving to "smart battery"problem?
>>>
>>>No. That's why I'm lurking around in the ACPI devel list ;-).
>>
>>hehehe, that seems to be a common reason for some of us. shame on us for
>>buying such laptops! :-)
>
>
> No, i'm very happy with it, really ;). And it seems a laptop model
> which several linux users choosed to buy, acpi-devel is full of them :)).
let me make myself clear: i'm very happy with it too! it was very cheap
comparing with equivalent models of other brands. it's excellent value for money.
regards,
pedro venda.
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* Re: bluetooth button is dead
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2004-12-22 0:01 ` David Gómez
@ 2004-12-22 10:35 ` Johan Vromans
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From: Johan Vromans @ 2004-12-22 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pedro Venda
Cc: Johan Vromans, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f,
juris-DO2cFn/OelIEUmgCuDUIdw
Pedro Venda <pjlv-aHmAgkVUFT6Joy8PIJZ9VA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>May be you have also find some solving to "smart battery"problem?
>> No. That's why I'm lurking around in the ACPI devel list ;-).
>
> hehehe, that seems to be a common reason for some of us.
Actually, I'm prepared to give it a try, but I'm no ACPI wizard. So
first I want to learn from the experts.
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* Re: Re: bluetooth button is dead
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@ 2004-12-22 12:34 ` Ultrakorne
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From: Ultrakorne @ 2004-12-22 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Johan Vromans wrote:
> [Quoting Pedro Venda, on December 21 2004, 15:25, in "Re: [ACPI] Re: bluet"]
>
>>but does it return such a message? mine does.
>>
>>atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
>>atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
>>atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
>>atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
>
>
> Yes, it does. When I press the BlueTooth button I get a e058, and the
> WiFi button alternates e055 (On) and e056 (Off). This is a TravelMate
> 4001WLMi; your actual codes can differ.
>
> -- Johan
>
k, but binding a keycode didnt enable BT, we need to know the values to
write to the control and data registry of the keyboard controller.
with such 2 values it's then easy to enable Bt...
but how pich then without reverse engineering the windows drivers?
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