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From: Kendall Bennett <kendallb-uto6oM0aG36m1FQbPH9wZw@public.gmane.org>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Matthew Garrett" <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>,
	"Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>,
	"Bill Davidsen" <davidsen-sQDSfeB7uhw@public.gmane.org>,
	"Alan Cox"
	<alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pavel Machek" <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>,
	ncunningham-jjFNsPSvq+iXDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org,
	"Carl-Daniel Hailfinger"
	<c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>,
	"ACPI List"
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:46:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <420BC814.4050102@scitechsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339105021012341c94c441-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Guys,

I have missed all the original emails in this thread. I was trying to 
re-subscribe to the lkml a few days ago (I just switched over to 
Thunderbird) but I haven't been getting any traffic. So I will try again.

The one thing I can say is that having worked extensively with ATI 
cards, there are some registers that have an effect on whether the BIOS 
image shows up on at the ROM BAR address or not. To get all the ATI 
cards we have working, we have had to massage some of those registers 
because after the POST has been run, they will cause the BIOS image to 
disappear (not intentionally on ATI's part, but a side effect I think).

Note that the cards that require this work just fine if they are in a 
cold boot state when you run the POST - they only have issues after the 
POST code has been run (which actually affects X drivers trying to read 
the BIOS PLL information too).

So perhaps this problem is something similar?

Regards,

Jon Smirl said the following on 2/10/2005 12:34 PM:
> I added Kendall from Scitech to the CC list. He is the expert on
> getting VBIOS's to post. Maybe he can help.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:29:47 +0000, Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 15:17 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:08:15 +0000, Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It also explicitly states that Windows 2000 and XP don't support this,
>>>>which leads me to suspect that vendors no longer expect POSTing to be
>>>>possible after initial system boot.
>>>
>>>No, it means that some of my ATI cards don't function as secondary
>>>adapters on 2K and XP.
>>
>>And nor will any other card that requires POSTing (assuming that it
>>isn't just ATI being less than honest about driver shortcomings). And
>>we've certainly seen in the past that removing support for functionality
>>in Windows tends to result in hardware no longer supporting that
>>functionality.
>>
>>I have real, shipping hardware here that fails if you simply try to
>>execute the video BIOS POST code. If you think this is due to a
>>shortcoming in existing BIOS emulations, I'm more than happy to dump the
>>video and system BIOS regions and send them to you.
>>
>>--
>>Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Kendall Bennett
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SciTech Software, Inc.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-10 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-22 13:42 Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon) Nikolaus Filus
     [not found] ` <20050122134205.GA9354-u75qzGzWA6cb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03  1:46   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]     ` <4201825B.2090703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03  1:54       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-03  5:38       ` Stefan Schweizer
     [not found]         ` <e796392205020221387d4d8562-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 11:56           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-03 12:23           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]             ` <420217DB.709-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 22:45               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                 ` <4202A972.1070003-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 22:54                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                     ` <20050203225410.GB1110-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 23:43                       ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                         ` <1107474198.5727.9.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  2:35                           ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                             ` <4202DF7B.2000506-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  2:51                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                 ` <1107485504.5727.35.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  7:18                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                     ` <9e4733910502032318460f2c0c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  7:44                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20050204074454.GB1086-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 17:38                                           ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                             ` <9e473391050204093837bc50d3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  0:52                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                 ` <420418C7.5010309-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  1:08                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  9:35                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20050205093550.GC1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 11:35                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Ondrej Zary
2005-02-06 16:02                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Alan Cox
2005-02-07  2:11                                                     ` Adam Sulmicki
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.BSF.4.62.0502062107000.26868-l0fCXZmbWQJ/Vb4cDf9RU/Z8FUJU4vz8@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:27                                                         ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Paulo Marques
     [not found]                                                           ` <42077AC4.5030103-TSnNRl9vlf1Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:36                                                             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                               ` <42077CFD.7030607-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 15:39                                                                 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-07 16:01                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 16:20                                                                   ` Li-Ta Lo
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1107793204.2930.18.camel-fiEEBCSFsUl2jBC2uHMcnu1ftBKYq+Ku@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-11  1:47                                                                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                                         ` <420C68B3.4080509@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                           ` <420CA2D2.6050003@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                             ` <420D08F2.3060505@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                               ` <420D5481.1060402@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <420D7B1B.3030503@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <421715EB.3020207@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <42180D40.1020409@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <425907FC.6010504@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <425907FC.6010504-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-10  8:36                                                                                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <42807289.8090003-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-10 16:33                                                                                               ` Kendall Bennett
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <4280E262.9020207-uto6oM0aG36m1FQbPH9wZw@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-10 19:36                                                                                                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-07 18:04                                                               ` [RFC] " Adam Sulmicki
2005-02-07 16:39                                                             ` Li-Ta Lo
2005-02-07 13:24                                                     ` [ACPI] Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Matthew Garrett
2005-02-07 14:09                                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                         ` <20050207140937.GA8040-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:25                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                     ` <1107695583.14847.167.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 19:13                                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                                                         ` <420BB267.8060108-sQDSfeB7uhw@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 19:25                                                           ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                                                             ` <20050210192554.GA15726-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 20:08                                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:17                                                                 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 20:29                                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:34                                                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                                       ` <9e47339105021012341c94c441-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 20:46                                                                         ` Kendall Bennett [this message]
     [not found]                                                                           ` <420BC814.4050102-uto6oM0aG36m1FQbPH9wZw@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 21:06                                                                             ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 21:20                                                                               ` Kendall Bennett
2005-02-10 21:28                                                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 22:53                                                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <9e47339105021013285e390e2a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-11  1:41                                                                                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                                   ` <9e473391050210121756874a84-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 20:32                                                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Ville Syrjälä
2005-02-10 19:31                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 19:27                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                     ` <m1lla0187m.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 20:59                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04  5:03                               ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                 ` <9e47339105020321031ccaabb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  7:49                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 12:17                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                     ` <420367CF.7060206-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 13:51                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-04 16:30                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20050204163019.GC1290-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 17:31                                           ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                             ` <9e4733910502040931955f5a6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 18:10                                               ` Jesse Barnes
     [not found]                                                 ` <200502041010.13220.jbarnes-UzQTBcouhwxWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 20:29                                                   ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                     ` <9e473391050204122942da8aa7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 22:13                                                       ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 21:56                                                   ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 22:59                                                   ` Legacy IO spaces (was Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume) Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                     ` <9e4733910502041459500ae8d3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 23:34                                                       ` Jesse Barnes
     [not found]                                                         ` <200502041534.03004.jbarnes-UzQTBcouhwxWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  0:48                                                           ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                             ` <9e47339105020416486cf19738-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 22:42                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-06  0:17                                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-06  0:07                                                           ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                             ` <9e47339105020516072b33a9c6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-06  0:19                                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-05  2:04                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  2:09                                                 ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                   ` <9e4733910502041809738017a7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  2:17                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  2:30                                                       ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                         ` <9e47339105020418306a4c2c93-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  8:15                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 11:53                                                             ` Ondrej Zary
     [not found]                                                               ` <4204B3C1.80706-ZCIryABCsrmttCpgsWEBFmD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 12:28                                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 15:47                                                                 ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                                   ` <9e473391050205074769e4f10-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 16:48                                                                     ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-05 17:38                                                                       ` [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                                         ` <9e47339105020509382adbbf39-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-06 11:05                                                                           ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-07 10:20                                                                           ` Helge Hafting
     [not found]                                                                             ` <420740F1.5050609-CND4fxrytsY@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:22                                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-05 15:55                                                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  9:37                                               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20050205093740.GD1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:49                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-05 15:49                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 22:09                                           ` James Simmons
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.56.0502042206090.26459-nGpKsS7K33UUkNsaar8edxWb9i9o6OzJ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  1:07                                               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05  1:14                                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 14:40                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Xavier Bestel
2005-02-05  1:10                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04  7:48                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                 ` <20050204074802.GD1086-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 10:26                                   ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                     ` <200502041126.14386.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 11:32                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                         ` <42035D5A.2030703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 12:11                                           ` David Goodenough
2005-02-04 16:15                                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04  7:43                           ` Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon) Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <20050204074302.GA1086-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 10:19                               ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                 ` <1107512396.5727.80.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 16:13                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                     ` <20050204161358.GA1290-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 22:26                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                         ` <1107555981.4109.3.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:31                                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                             ` <20050205093118.GA1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:44                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                                 ` <1107596660.6348.6.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:45                                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                     ` <20050205094541.GE1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:51                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-05  9:32                                           ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-03 22:50               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                 ` <20050203225033.GA1110-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 15:50                   ` Stefan Seyfried

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