High pitched sound with 2.6.15-ck1 -- Update info

High pitched sound with 2.6.15-ck1 -- Update info

[Vasileios Gkanis]

Hi,

I had some free time and I was switching from one C-state to another to check 
when I hear this high pitched sound, I discover the following:

When the system is in the C4-state I hear this high pitched sound only when 
the USB-mouse is plugged in!  If I unplug the mouse, the sound is not audible 
anymore. If I plug in the USB-stick the sound is not audible!  I did some 
experiments and I found that when the system is in the C3 or C4-state, I hear 
the sound only when the USB-mouse is plugged in. On the other hand, in the C1 
or C2-state the sound is not audible regardless of whether the USB-mouse is 
plugged in or not. 
I see a similar behavior in windows, but the only difference is that the sound 
is not audible when the USB-stick and the USB-mouse are both plugged in!

Does anybody have any idea why this is happening?

Thank you,
Vasilis

Re: High pitched sound with 2.6.15-ck1 -- Update info

[Janosch Machowinski]

Vasileios Gkanis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I had some free time and I was switching from one C-state to another to check 
> when I hear this high pitched sound, I discover the following:
> 
> When the system is in the C4-state I hear this high pitched sound only when 
> the USB-mouse is plugged in!  If I unplug the mouse, the sound is not audible 
> anymore. If I plug in the USB-stick the sound is not audible!  I did some 
> experiments and I found that when the system is in the C3 or C4-state, I hear 
> the sound only when the USB-mouse is plugged in. On the other hand, in the C1 
> or C2-state the sound is not audible regardless of whether the USB-mouse is 
> plugged in or not. 
> I see a similar behavior in windows, but the only difference is that the sound 
> is not audible when the USB-stick and the USB-mouse are both plugged in!
> 
> Does anybody have any idea why this is happening?
> 
Jep,
this happens because your power converters starts "singing". If
you switch the C-State, you need a different amount of power. So if
you have a kernel frequency of 1000 herz, your power converter has
to adjust the amount of power 1000 times per second. And because
of that it starts "singing". By the way, you can also modulate the sound
by scaling your CPU frequency up or down. (Perhaps you could also write
a programm, that can play some melody based on this phaenomenon ;-) )

    Janosch

Re: High pitched sound with 2.6.15-ck1 -- Update info

[Vasileios Gkanis]

> Jep,
> this happens because your power converters starts "singing". If
> you switch the C-State, you need a different amount of power. So if
> you have a kernel frequency of 1000 herz, your power converter has
> to adjust the amount of power 1000 times per second. And because
> of that it starts "singing". By the way, you can also modulate the sound
> by scaling your CPU frequency up or down. (Perhaps you could also write
> a programm, that can play some melody based on this phaenomenon ;-) )
>
>     Janosch

What you said is correct. But, do you know why this happens when I plug in the 
USB-mouse and not when I plug in the USB-stick?

Vasilis

Re: High pitched sound with 2.6.15-ck1 -- Update info

[Janosch Machowinski]

Vasileios Gkanis schrieb:
>>Jep,
>>this happens because your power converters starts "singing". If
>>you switch the C-State, you need a different amount of power. So if
>>you have a kernel frequency of 1000 herz, your power converter has
>>to adjust the amount of power 1000 times per second. And because
>>of that it starts "singing". By the way, you can also modulate the sound
>>by scaling your CPU frequency up or down. (Perhaps you could also write
>>a programm, that can play some melody based on this phaenomenon ;-) )
>>
>>    Janosch
> 
> 
> What you said is correct. But, do you know why this happens when I plug in the 
> USB-mouse and not when I plug in the USB-stick?

I would guess that the mouse has a higher power consumption as the 
stick. Try to put in some other usb-devices, that needs a lot of power 
(one of this usb-harddrives without external AC for example) and test it 
  ;-)
   Janosch