* [PATCH] ACPI: battery: add sysfs serial number
@ 2008-01-22 17:46 maximilian attems
2008-01-22 18:00 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: maximilian attems @ 2008-01-22 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Starikovskiy; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi, maximilian attems
egrep serial /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
serial number: 32090
serial number can tell you from the imminent danger
of beeing set on fire.
Signed-off-by: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
---
drivers/acpi/battery.c | 5 +++++
drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c | 1 +
include/linux/power_supply.h | 1 +
3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/acpi/battery.c b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
index c4a769d..f6215e8 100644
--- a/drivers/acpi/battery.c
+++ b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
@@ -194,6 +194,9 @@ static int acpi_battery_get_property(struct power_supply *psy,
case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER:
val->strval = battery->oem_info;
break;
+ case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER:
+ val->strval = battery->serial_number;
+ break;
default:
return -EINVAL;
}
@@ -212,6 +215,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property charge_battery_props[] = {
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_CHARGE_NOW,
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
+ POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
};
static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
@@ -226,6 +230,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_ENERGY_NOW,
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
+ POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
};
#endif
diff --git a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
index 249f61b..8feaa48 100644
--- a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
+++ b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
@@ -117,6 +117,7 @@ static struct device_attribute power_supply_attrs[] = {
/* Properties of type `const char *' */
POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(model_name),
POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(manufacturer),
+ POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(serial_number),
};
static ssize_t power_supply_show_static_attrs(struct device *dev,
diff --git a/include/linux/power_supply.h b/include/linux/power_supply.h
index 606c095..300159b 100644
--- a/include/linux/power_supply.h
+++ b/include/linux/power_supply.h
@@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ enum power_supply_property {
/* Properties of type `const char *' */
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
+ POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
};
enum power_supply_type {
--
1.5.4.rc2-dirty
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2008-01-22 17:46 [PATCH] ACPI: battery: add sysfs serial number maximilian attems
@ 2008-01-22 18:00 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-01-22 18:07 ` maximilian attems
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Starikovskiy @ 2008-01-22 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: maximilian attems; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi
ACK
maximilian attems wrote:
> egrep serial /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
> serial number: 32090
>
> serial number can tell you from the imminent danger
> of beeing set on fire.
>
> Signed-off-by: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
> ---
> drivers/acpi/battery.c | 5 +++++
> drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c | 1 +
> include/linux/power_supply.h | 1 +
> 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/battery.c b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
> index c4a769d..f6215e8 100644
> --- a/drivers/acpi/battery.c
> +++ b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
> @@ -194,6 +194,9 @@ static int acpi_battery_get_property(struct power_supply *psy,
> case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER:
> val->strval = battery->oem_info;
> break;
> + case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER:
> + val->strval = battery->serial_number;
> + break;
> default:
> return -EINVAL;
> }
> @@ -212,6 +215,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property charge_battery_props[] = {
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_CHARGE_NOW,
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
> + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
> };
>
> static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
> @@ -226,6 +230,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_ENERGY_NOW,
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
> + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
> };
> #endif
>
> diff --git a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
> index 249f61b..8feaa48 100644
> --- a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
> +++ b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
> @@ -117,6 +117,7 @@ static struct device_attribute power_supply_attrs[] = {
> /* Properties of type `const char *' */
> POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(model_name),
> POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(manufacturer),
> + POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(serial_number),
> };
>
> static ssize_t power_supply_show_static_attrs(struct device *dev,
> diff --git a/include/linux/power_supply.h b/include/linux/power_supply.h
> index 606c095..300159b 100644
> --- a/include/linux/power_supply.h
> +++ b/include/linux/power_supply.h
> @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ enum power_supply_property {
> /* Properties of type `const char *' */
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
> + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
> };
>
> enum power_supply_type {
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2008-01-22 18:00 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
@ 2008-01-22 18:07 ` maximilian attems
2008-01-22 18:15 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-02-03 11:02 ` maximilian attems
2008-02-06 2:09 ` Len Brown
2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: maximilian attems @ 2008-01-22 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Starikovskiy; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 09:00:09PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> ACK
thanks for your quick response!
while checking the missing bits of ACPI_SYSFS_POWER versus
ACPI_PROCFS_POWER i also noticed capacity granularity.
is that used by anyone?
if yes i can send another patch for that too.
want to switch debian to ACPI_SYSFS_POWER.
--
maks
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* Re: [PATCH] ACPI: battery: add sysfs serial number
2008-01-22 18:07 ` maximilian attems
@ 2008-01-22 18:15 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-01-23 10:18 ` maximilian attems
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Starikovskiy @ 2008-01-22 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: maximilian attems; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi
maximilian attems wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 09:00:09PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>> ACK
>
> thanks for your quick response!
>
> while checking the missing bits of ACPI_SYSFS_POWER versus
> ACPI_PROCFS_POWER i also noticed capacity granularity.
> is that used by anyone?
IMHO, nobody cares about it.
>
> if yes i can send another patch for that too.
SBS (sbs.c) has cycle_count field, which might be useful too,
so you might want to show it as well.
> want to switch debian to ACPI_SYSFS_POWER.
Good luck!
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* Re: [PATCH] ACPI: battery: add sysfs serial number
2008-01-22 18:15 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
@ 2008-01-23 10:18 ` maximilian attems
2008-01-23 11:01 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: maximilian attems @ 2008-01-23 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Starikovskiy; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi, sjoerd
[ added debian hal maintainer on cc ]
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> maximilian attems wrote:
>> while checking the missing bits of ACPI_SYSFS_POWER versus
>> ACPI_PROCFS_POWER i also noticed capacity granularity.
>> is that used by anyone?
> IMHO, nobody cares about it.
ack, will add if someone cries.
>> if yes i can send another patch for that too.
> SBS (sbs.c) has cycle_count field, which might be useful too, so you might
> want to show it as well.
i see, need to testboot to see if my first try went right.
>> want to switch debian to ACPI_SYSFS_POWER.
> Good luck!
done on the linux side.
thanks. :)
got the following question:
~/src/hal$ egrep 'voltage_(max|min)_design' -r .
./hald/linux/device.c: if (hal_util_get_int_from_file (path, "voltage_max_design", &voltage_design, 10)) {
any particular reason the kernel is calling it
cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/voltage_min_design
14400000
shall i send in a patch along the line:
- case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN:
+ case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MAX_DESIGN:
val->intval = battery->design_voltage * 1000;
or is it hal beeing silly?
--
maks
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2008-01-23 10:18 ` maximilian attems
@ 2008-01-23 11:01 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-01-23 11:15 ` Sjoerd Simons
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Starikovskiy @ 2008-01-23 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: maximilian attems; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi, sjoerd
maximilian attems wrote:
> got the following question:
> ~/src/hal$ egrep 'voltage_(max|min)_design' -r .
> ./hald/linux/device.c: if (hal_util_get_int_from_file (path, "voltage_max_design", &voltage_design, 10)) {
>
> any particular reason the kernel is calling it
> cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/voltage_min_design
> 14400000
>
> shall i send in a patch along the line:
> - case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN:
> + case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MAX_DESIGN:
> val->intval = battery->design_voltage * 1000;
>
> or is it hal beeing silly?
>
On most new batteries design voltage is less than current voltage, thus I've chosen VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN.
On older batteries, current voltage may become lower than design, so I think hal should not be very
strict about how they relate to each other.
Alex.
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2008-01-23 11:01 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
@ 2008-01-23 11:15 ` Sjoerd Simons
2008-01-23 11:21 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sjoerd Simons @ 2008-01-23 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Starikovskiy; +Cc: maximilian attems, Len Brown, linux-acpi
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 02:01:34PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> maximilian attems wrote:
>> got the following question:
>> ~/src/hal$ egrep 'voltage_(max|min)_design' -r .
>> ./hald/linux/device.c: if (hal_util_get_int_from_file (path, "voltage_max_design", &voltage_design, 10)) {
>>
>> any particular reason the kernel is calling it
>> cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/voltage_min_design 14400000
>>
>> shall i send in a patch along the line:
>> - case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN:
>> + case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MAX_DESIGN:
>> val->intval = battery->design_voltage * 1000;
>>
>> or is it hal beeing silly?
>>
> On most new batteries design voltage is less than current voltage, thus I've chosen VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN.
> On older batteries, current voltage may become lower than design, so I
> think hal should not be very strict about how they relate to each other.
I'll patch up hal to use voltage_min_design if there is no voltage_max_design
available. Which should be fine as we already picked up the same value from
procfs for this property.
What it does make me wonder about, is why there is a difference between MIN and
MAX in the power_supply class. As this doesn't seem to have a strict meaning
(or at least not for ACPI). So why not just voltage_design instead ?
Sjoerd
--
The solution to a problem changes the nature of the problem.
-- Peer
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2008-01-23 11:15 ` Sjoerd Simons
@ 2008-01-23 11:21 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Starikovskiy @ 2008-01-23 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sjoerd Simons; +Cc: maximilian attems, Len Brown, linux-acpi
Sjoerd Simons wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 02:01:34PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>> maximilian attems wrote:
>>> got the following question:
>>> ~/src/hal$ egrep 'voltage_(max|min)_design' -r .
>>> ./hald/linux/device.c: if (hal_util_get_int_from_file (path, "voltage_max_design", &voltage_design, 10)) {
>>>
>>> any particular reason the kernel is calling it
>>> cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/voltage_min_design 14400000
>>>
>>> shall i send in a patch along the line:
>>> - case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN:
>>> + case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_VOLTAGE_MAX_DESIGN:
>>> val->intval = battery->design_voltage * 1000;
>>>
>>> or is it hal beeing silly?
>>>
>> On most new batteries design voltage is less than current voltage, thus I've chosen VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN.
>> On older batteries, current voltage may become lower than design, so I
>> think hal should not be very strict about how they relate to each other.
>
> I'll patch up hal to use voltage_min_design if there is no voltage_max_design
> available. Which should be fine as we already picked up the same value from
> procfs for this property.
>
> What it does make me wonder about, is why there is a difference between MIN and
> MAX in the power_supply class. As this doesn't seem to have a strict meaning
> (or at least not for ACPI). So why not just voltage_design instead ?
Don't know, may be they had battery for which both min and max voltages are known and
crossing each needs to be guarded...
Regards,
Alex.
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* Re: [PATCH] ACPI: battery: add sysfs serial number
2008-01-22 18:00 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-01-22 18:07 ` maximilian attems
@ 2008-02-03 11:02 ` maximilian attems
2008-02-06 2:09 ` Len Brown
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: maximilian attems @ 2008-02-03 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Starikovskiy; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-acpi
Dear Len Brown,
could you please merged acked patch,
don't feel like merging sysfs file patches in Debian
on my own.
thanks for feedback
--
maks
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> ACK
> maximilian attems wrote:
>> egrep serial /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
>> serial number: 32090
>>
>> serial number can tell you from the imminent danger
>> of beeing set on fire.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
>> ---
>> drivers/acpi/battery.c | 5 +++++
>> drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c | 1 +
>> include/linux/power_supply.h | 1 +
>> 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/battery.c b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
>> index c4a769d..f6215e8 100644
>> --- a/drivers/acpi/battery.c
>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
>> @@ -194,6 +194,9 @@ static int acpi_battery_get_property(struct power_supply *psy,
>> case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER:
>> val->strval = battery->oem_info;
>> break;
>> + case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER:
>> + val->strval = battery->serial_number;
>> + break;
>> default:
>> return -EINVAL;
>> }
>> @@ -212,6 +215,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property charge_battery_props[] = {
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_CHARGE_NOW,
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
>> + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
>> };
>> static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
>> @@ -226,6 +230,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_ENERGY_NOW,
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
>> + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
>> };
>> #endif
>> diff --git a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
>> b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
>> index 249f61b..8feaa48 100644
>> --- a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
>> +++ b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
>> @@ -117,6 +117,7 @@ static struct device_attribute power_supply_attrs[] = {
>> /* Properties of type `const char *' */
>> POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(model_name),
>> POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(manufacturer),
>> + POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(serial_number),
>> };
>> static ssize_t power_supply_show_static_attrs(struct device *dev,
>> diff --git a/include/linux/power_supply.h b/include/linux/power_supply.h
>> index 606c095..300159b 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/power_supply.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/power_supply.h
>> @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ enum power_supply_property {
>> /* Properties of type `const char *' */
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
>> POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
>> + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
>> };
>> enum power_supply_type {
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2008-01-22 18:00 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-01-22 18:07 ` maximilian attems
2008-02-03 11:02 ` maximilian attems
@ 2008-02-06 2:09 ` Len Brown
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Len Brown @ 2008-02-06 2:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Starikovskiy; +Cc: maximilian attems, linux-acpi
Applied.
thanks,
-Len
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 13:00, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> ACK
> maximilian attems wrote:
> > egrep serial /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
> > serial number: 32090
> >
> > serial number can tell you from the imminent danger
> > of beeing set on fire.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
> > ---
> > drivers/acpi/battery.c | 5 +++++
> > drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c | 1 +
> > include/linux/power_supply.h | 1 +
> > 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/acpi/battery.c b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
> > index c4a769d..f6215e8 100644
> > --- a/drivers/acpi/battery.c
> > +++ b/drivers/acpi/battery.c
> > @@ -194,6 +194,9 @@ static int acpi_battery_get_property(struct power_supply *psy,
> > case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER:
> > val->strval = battery->oem_info;
> > break;
> > + case POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER:
> > + val->strval = battery->serial_number;
> > + break;
> > default:
> > return -EINVAL;
> > }
> > @@ -212,6 +215,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property charge_battery_props[] = {
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_CHARGE_NOW,
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
> > + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
> > };
> >
> > static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
> > @@ -226,6 +230,7 @@ static enum power_supply_property energy_battery_props[] = {
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_ENERGY_NOW,
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
> > + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
> > };
> > #endif
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
> > index 249f61b..8feaa48 100644
> > --- a/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
> > +++ b/drivers/power/power_supply_sysfs.c
> > @@ -117,6 +117,7 @@ static struct device_attribute power_supply_attrs[] = {
> > /* Properties of type `const char *' */
> > POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(model_name),
> > POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(manufacturer),
> > + POWER_SUPPLY_ATTR(serial_number),
> > };
> >
> > static ssize_t power_supply_show_static_attrs(struct device *dev,
> > diff --git a/include/linux/power_supply.h b/include/linux/power_supply.h
> > index 606c095..300159b 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/power_supply.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/power_supply.h
> > @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ enum power_supply_property {
> > /* Properties of type `const char *' */
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MODEL_NAME,
> > POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_MANUFACTURER,
> > + POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_SERIAL_NUMBER,
> > };
> >
> > enum power_supply_type {
>
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