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From: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	?ric Piel <Eric.Piel@tremplin-utc.net>,
	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Markus Gaugusch <dsdt@gaugusch.at>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:23:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47EB67AC.4090309@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1206288004.30471.45.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>

Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 14:17 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>   
>>> So what's the reason for pushing for this insanely-early workaround in the 
>>> first place, instead of letting user-space do something like
>>>
>>>       cat my-dsdt-image > /proc/sys/acpi/DSDT
>>>
>>> or whatever at runtime?
>>>       
>> You have interpretted code runing (AML), and you want to replace it
>> with different code?
>>
>> Akin to changing from one kernel to different during runtime?
>>     
>
> Heh.  That gave me an idea.
>
> Can we use kexec for this?  Let's say you get as far in boot as the
> initrd and realize that you're running on one of these screwed up
> systems.  Can you stick the new DSDT somewhere known (and safe) in
> memory, and kexec yourself back to the beginning of the kernel boot?
>
> When you boot up the second time, you have the new, shiny DSDT there
> which is, of course, used instead of the bogus BIOS one.
>   
I see a problem here. 
This could work. And if it is successful, the "kexec reboot around 
busted hw"-trick
is used for other stuff as well.

So your broken machine reboots with some fix, then it reboots with the
custom DSDT. Is the previous fix preserved? Then a third problem is hit,
another kexec reboot. Is the first fix _and_ the custom DSDT
preserved on this reboot?  Or do we get an infinite sequence of reboots,
alternating between a couple of completely unrelated fixes for bad 
hw/bios...

Once there is more than one fix utilizing this trick, some "protocol" for
managing a string of  kexec fixes might become necessary.

Helge Hafting

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-27  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080311011434.ad8c8d7d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2008-03-12  1:14 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Dave Young
     [not found] ` <47D87238.8080305@imap.cc>
     [not found]   ` <20080313183439.GA12798@suse.de>
2008-03-13 19:57     ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] WARNING: at drivers/base/sys.c:173 Dave Jones
     [not found]   ` <20080313195656.GA32463@codemonkey.org.uk>
2008-03-14  0:01     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-14  0:44       ` Dave Jones
2008-03-14  0:57       ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-14  9:58         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 12:16         ` Tilman Schmidt
     [not found] ` <47D86D43.2060108@imap.cc>
     [not found]   ` <1205441216.4971.65.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
     [not found]     ` <47D9C853.3040701@imap.cc>
     [not found]       ` <1205517802.12763.18.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
2008-03-14 20:06         ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 20:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-14 20:51           ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 21:35             ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 22:50               ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 23:29                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-15 12:47                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 19:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-15 19:42                       ` Éric Piel
2008-03-15 20:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16  0:15                           ` Éric Piel
2008-03-17 17:27                             ` Len Brown
     [not found]                               ` <1205858252.21619.233.camel@queen.suse.de>
2008-03-18 20:32                                 ` Len Brown
2008-03-20 14:28                                   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-03-17 17:59                           ` Len Brown
2008-03-21 13:17                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-23 16:00                             ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-24 16:03                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:05                                 ` Eric Piel
2008-03-24 17:19                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:23                                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-27  9:23                               ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2008-03-17 18:05                         ` Len Brown
2008-03-16 20:11                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-17 12:23                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-19 23:50                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 17:48                 ` Len Brown

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