sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Brad Campbell]

G'day all,

I have a sony Vaio TT notebook. It works reasonably well with the 
sony-laptop kernel module excepting the following items

- No control over the optical drive power state
- No control over the "battery care" function in the embedded controller
- No control over the "quick charge" function

All three of these functions are sub-functions of the SNY6001 method 
call, just the same as the rfkill functions.

I've reverse engineered all three of them with the assistance of some 
damaged windows drivers and software. I'd like to add these functions 
into the sony-laptop module, but I've absolutely no idea where to start.

I can use the rfkill code as a working example to get me started on 
getting access to the required bits in ACPI, so I suppose I need some 
targeted questions to get any usable response.

1) The optical power functions are completely different from the current 
implementation (where specific method calls are made). I can't really 
figure out the best way to make the function I need have the same 
interface as the legacy functions "cd-power" sysfs file. Advice or ideas 
would be welcome.

2) Is there any precedent for how I might attempt to implement an 
interface to the battery care and quick charging functions?

Quick charge is easy, it's just a boolean, but the battery care is a bit 
more curly. On my machine it's relatively easy. It has 4 settings (off, 
50%, 80%, 100%) and various combinations of bits make it behave the same 
way. On off is just the LSB of the control byte, however the user space 
application leads me to believe there may be the possibility of 
individually setting these bits on batteries in machines that have more 
than one. I don't really want to paint myself into a corner, but then I 
don't really know what I'm doing anyway.

It would help _heaps_ if someone with a vaio that has (A) The battery 
care function, and (B) more than one place a battery can plug in, could 
send me a DSDT to examine.

Help, ideas or advice more than welcome.

Regards,
Brad

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Mattia Dongili]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 06:07:30PM +0800, Brad Campbell wrote:
> G'day all,
> 
> I have a sony Vaio TT notebook. It works reasonably well with the
> sony-laptop kernel module excepting the following items
> 
> - No control over the optical drive power state
> - No control over the "battery care" function in the embedded controller
> - No control over the "quick charge" function
> 
> All three of these functions are sub-functions of the SNY6001 method
> call, just the same as the rfkill functions.
> 
> I've reverse engineered all three of them with the assistance of
> some damaged windows drivers and software. I'd like to add these
> functions into the sony-laptop module, but I've absolutely no idea
> where to start.

there are patches already floating around, you can take a look here
http://www.absence.it/vaio-acpi/source/patches/
the code is making its way into the kernel.

ciao
-- 
mattia
:wq!

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Brad Campbell]

On 30/06/11 21:55, Mattia Dongili wrote:

> there are patches already floating around, you can take a look here
> http://www.absence.it/vaio-acpi/source/patches/
> the code is making its way into the kernel.

Hrm.. next time I guess I'll ask before breaking out the debugger!

Ta :)

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Marco Chiappero]

Il 30/06/2011 17:52, Brad Campbell ha scritto:
> On 30/06/11 21:55, Mattia Dongili wrote:
>
>> there are patches already floating around, you can take a look here
>> http://www.absence.it/vaio-acpi/source/patches/
>> the code is making its way into the kernel.
>
> Hrm.. next time I guess I'll ask before breaking out the debugger!

Hello,
could you please provide us your DSDT and the exact model string of your TT?

Thanks

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Marco,

On Fr, 01 Jul 2011, Marco Chiappero wrote:
>>> http://www.absence.it/vaio-acpi/source/patches/
>
> could you please provide us your DSDT and the exact model string of your TT?

I looked a bit through the patch and I see that it is restricted
to MM and (forgotten the model number). I have a VGN-Z11 which has
also a turn on/off optical drive, a shock sensor etc.

I would be interested in trying out some of these new things and see if
they can work in the Z11, too.

(btw, I also take care for the sony-laptop-zseries variant of the
kernel module where you can turn off and on the nvidia card,
and also the led of the speed-stamina switch is controlled. After
I have tried your patches I will try to merge my patches back into
yours.)

Best wishes

Norbert
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Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Marco Chiappero]

Il 01/07/2011 11:50, Norbert Preining ha scritto:
> Hi Marco,
>
> On Fr, 01 Jul 2011, Marco Chiappero wrote:
>>>> http://www.absence.it/vaio-acpi/source/patches/
>>
>> could you please provide us your DSDT and the exact model string of your TT?
>
> I looked a bit through the patch and I see that it is restricted
> to MM and (forgotten the model number).

MM? What does it stand for?

> I have a VGN-Z11 which has
> also a turn on/off optical drive, a shock sensor etc.

This last one is interesting because, from the other DSTDs I have seen, 
I suspect your notebook to have handle 0x0113, an handle that allows to 
enable/disable an unknown feature, is it the HDD protection?

> (btw, I also take care for the sony-laptop-zseries variant of the
> kernel module where you can turn off and on the nvidia card,
> and also the led of the speed-stamina switch is controlled.

This is interesting too. Ok, let's not speak about the multiplexer 
methods, let us speak about handle 0x0128, related to the Hybrid GFX 
feature. I have never done a deep analysis, maybe you can help here.
First of all, newer VPCZ1 models come with a few more methods, dealing 
with the screen brightness level, HSC5, HSC6, HSC7. Then:
- HSC0 returns the event reason (1 switch position change? what about 
2,3,4?)
- HSC1 returns some state bits (what about their meaning?)
- HSC2, HSC3, HSC4?

Moreover:

  Field (ECF2, ByteAcc, Lock, Preserve)
         {
                     Offset (0xF1),
             HPWR,   1, 			<-- ?
             HLMX,   1, 			<-- ?
             HCMM,   1, 			<-- ?
             DLED,   1, 			<-- discrete GFX led
             ILED,   1, 			<-- integr. GFX led
             ALED,   1, 			<-- auto GFX led
                     Offset (0xF2),
             SWPS,   1, 			<-- ?
             HPOK,   1, 			<-- ?
             HHPD,   1, 			<-- HDMI related
             DHPD,   1, 			<-- DVI related
             ATSW,   1			<-- auto switching related
         }

What does handle 0x0128 aim to provide?

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Brad Campbell]

On 01/07/11 17:46, Marco Chiappero wrote:
> Il 30/06/2011 17:52, Brad Campbell ha scritto:
>> On 30/06/11 21:55, Mattia Dongili wrote:
>>
>>> there are patches already floating around, you can take a look here
>>> http://www.absence.it/vaio-acpi/source/patches/
>>> the code is making its way into the kernel.
>>
>> Hrm.. next time I guess I'll ask before breaking out the debugger!
>
> Hello,
> could you please provide us your DSDT and the exact model string of your TT?
>
http://www.fnarfbargle.com/private/110704_dsdt/tt.dsdt

The Model is a VGN-TT15GN

My dsdt has been patched to recognise a new wireless card but is otherwise unmodified. Everything 
appears to work but I'll be adding a WWAN card and swapping the Wifi card in the next week or two, 
so we'll see how that goes.

The patch I was pointed at earlier seems to pretty much activate everything.

brad@bklaptop:~$ sudo grep . /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/*
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_backlight:213
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_backlight_levels:0x07 0x0c 0x0f 0x15 0x22 0x3c 0x58 0x8d 0xd5
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_defaults:0x05 0xaa 0x00 0x55 0x6e 0x01 0x23 0x02 0x08 0x04 
0x32 0x00 0x00
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_kelvin:0
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_lux:0.00
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_managed:0
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_power:0
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/battery_care_limiter:1
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/battery_highspeed_charging:0
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/bluetoothpower:0
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/fanspeed:17
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/lid_resume_control:0
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/modalias:platform:sony-laptop
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/odd_power:1
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/thermal_control:1
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/thermal_profiles:3
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/touchpad:1
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/uevent:DRIVER=sony-laptop
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/uevent:MODALIAS=platform:sony-laptop
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/wwanpower:0

No manual fanspeed control. bluetoothpower does not seem to do anything. I don't have wwan installed 
yet, so I can't test wwanpower but I would have expected that to be controlled via rfkill.

I don't seem to be able to get the power consumption down below about 7W though. With Windows I can 
get it below 6W. I'll keep fiddling.

Interesting point. Windows sets up the graphics card in 16 bit mode to reduce power consumption. 
With X in 16 bit mode I seem to get about .5-.7W higher power consumption than in the default 24bit 
mode.

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Marco Chiappero]

Il 04/07/2011 11:19, Brad Campbell ha scritto:

> brad@bklaptop:~$ sudo grep . /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/*
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_backlight:213
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_backlight_levels:0x07 0x0c 0x0f
> 0x15 0x22 0x3c 0x58 0x8d 0xd5
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_defaults:0x05 0xaa 0x00 0x55 0x6e
> 0x01 0x23 0x02 0x08 0x04 0x32 0x00 0x00
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_kelvin:0
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_lux:0.00
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_managed:0
> /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_power:0

If you want to enjoy the ALS driven backlight control (I see here 
disabled) you should also compile and run the daemon at 
http://git.zx2c4.com/sony-acpid/

> No manual fanspeed control. bluetoothpower does not seem to do anything.

That because the SPIC device is still present but probably unused (can 
we avoid to initialize it?) since everything goes through the SNC 
device. I don't know if models using both the SNC and SPIC devices 
exist. Mattia?

> I don't have wwan installed yet, so I can't test wwanpower but I would
> have expected that to be controlled via rfkill.

Right.

> I don't seem to be able to get the power consumption down below about 7W
> though. With Windows I can get it below 6W. I'll keep fiddling.

Try using the autodimming feature and try turning off the optical device 
and maybe the touchpad (control files in 
/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/ should be more or less 
self-explanatory but ask if you need). I can't say much about this, sorry.

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Marc,

sorry for the silence, I was overly busy with a state exam on Japanese
and some presentations.

On Fr, 01 Jul 2011, Marco Chiappero wrote:
>> I looked a bit through the patch and I see that it is restricted
>> to MM and (forgotten the model number).
>
> MM? What does it stand for?

TT I meant. But patching the kernel and running your module I see at least
that there is support for battery_care_limiter and some others.
On my VGN-Z11 I get:
battery_care_limiter  lid_resume_control  subsystem@	    uevent
bluetoothpower	      modalias		  thermal_control   wwanpower
driver@		      odd_power		  thermal_profiles
fanspeed	      power/		  touchpad
in /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop.

What I am missing is the shock protector, there is a sensor built in.

> This last one is interesting because, from the other DSTDs I have seen,  
> I suspect your notebook to have handle 0x0113, an handle that allows to  
> enable/disable an unknown feature, is it the HDD protection?

How can I check that?

> This is interesting too. Ok, let's not speak about the multiplexer  
> methods, let us speak about handle 0x0128, related to the Hybrid GFX  
> feature. I have never done a deep analysis, maybe you can help here.
> First of all, newer VPCZ1 models come with a few more methods, dealing  
> with the screen brightness level, HSC5, HSC6, HSC7. Then:
> - HSC0 returns the event reason (1 switch position change? what about  
> 2,3,4?)

Currently we are not evaluating HSC0 at all, I am not sure about its
function. only HSC1 is used to query the speed/stamina switch.
Furthermore, the path of HSC1 is different on different modules
	_SB.PCI0.LPC.SNC.HSC1	(VGN)
and
	_SB.PCI0.LPCB.SNC.HSC1	(VPC)


Not much more is used actually, but turning on/off the nvidia (secondary
gpu) and the speed/stamina led by hooking into
	_SB.PCI0.OVGA._DSM (VGN)
and
	_SB.PCI0.P0P2.DGPU._DSM (VPC)
with various function indices (2 -> led, 3 -> gpu off).

> What does handle 0x0128 aim to provide?

No idea..

If anything what I said makes sense to you and you need more information,
please let me know. I can hack the module code and dump acpi etc
whatever might be useful for you.

Best wishes

Norbert
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Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Marco Chiappero]

Il 12/07/2011 08:21, Norbert Preining ha scritto:
> Hi Marc,
>
> sorry for the silence, I was overly busy with a state exam on Japanese
> and some presentations.

Hi Norbert,
there is no problem at all.

> What I am missing is the shock protector, there is a sensor built in.

Yes I know, and it seems that a device driver is used under Windows... 
can you confirm this? Can you see this sensor under the device listing 
of Windows? Handle 0x0113 might allow to turn on/off this sensor, but 
then it should controlled by another driver, I'm afraid.

>> This last one is interesting because, from the other DSTDs I have seen,
>> I suspect your notebook to have handle 0x0113, an handle that allows to
>> enable/disable an unknown feature, is it the HDD protection?
>
> How can I check that?

I can provide you a patch for testing this feature.

>> This is interesting too. Ok, let's not speak about the multiplexer
>> methods, let us speak about handle 0x0128, related to the Hybrid GFX
>> feature. I have never done a deep analysis, maybe you can help here.
>> First of all, newer VPCZ1 models come with a few more methods, dealing
>> with the screen brightness level, HSC5, HSC6, HSC7. Then:
>> - HSC0 returns the event reason (1 switch position change? what about
>> 2,3,4?)
>
> Currently we are not evaluating HSC0 at all, I am not sure about its
> function.

HSC0 returns HGER (Hybrid GFX Event Reason), a number that can be read 
when an Hybrid GFX event is notified (for example when the physical 
switch change its position), telling userspace what triggered that event.

> only HSC1 is used to query the speed/stamina switch.

It also provides other informations, do you know their meaning?

Method (HSC1, 0, Serialized)
{
     Store (Zero, Local0)
     If (AVIL)			<-- ??
     { ... }

     If (^^H8EC.SWPS)		<-- switch position
     { ... }

     If (LEqual (HGAP, One))	<-- Hyb GFX A? Presence?
     { ... }

     If (LEqual (HGAP, 0x02))	<-- Hyb GFX A? Presence?
     { ... }

     If (HDME)		<-- HDMI Exit? HDMI routing capability?
     { ... }

     If (DVIE)
     { ... }

     If (^^H8EC.ATSW)		<-- switch set to auto
     { ... }

     ...
}

> Furthermore, the path of HSC1 is different on different modules
> 	_SB.PCI0.LPC.SNC.HSC1	(VGN)
> and
> 	_SB.PCI0.LPCB.SNC.HSC1	(VPC)

This is not relevant, we just call the SN07 method from the SNC device, 
so don't care about it.

> Not much more is used actually, but turning on/off the nvidia (secondary
> gpu) and the speed/stamina led by hooking into
> 	_SB.PCI0.OVGA._DSM (VGN)
> and
> 	_SB.PCI0.P0P2.DGPU._DSM (VPC)
> with various function indices (2 ->  led, 3 ->  gpu off).

If I'm not wrong the video driver should take care of calling _DSM and 
other multiplexing methods (MXDS, MXMX and so on), is it right?
We need to find out more about methods HSC1, HSC2, HSC3, HSC4, but I 
don't own the hardware.
Then we can start changing the code to be more compliant to the kernel 
guidelines.

Re: sony-laptop on VAIO TT help request

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Marco,

On Do, 14 Jul 2011, Marco Chiappero wrote:
>> What I am missing is the shock protector, there is a sensor built in.
>
> Yes I know, and it seems that a device driver is used under Windows...  
> can you confirm this? Can you see this sensor under the device listing  

It was used in the original installation, I often got "turned off
HDD due to ....", but I had to reinstall and used a new W7, and I am
very lazy in hunting down drivers for W7 since I hardly use it.
I will check what I see in the device manager of W7.

>>> This last one is interesting because, from the other DSTDs I have seen,
>>> I suspect your notebook to have handle 0x0113, an handle that allows to
>>> enable/disable an unknown feature, is it the HDD protection?
>>
>> How can I check that?
>
> I can provide you a patch for testing this feature.

Yeah, please do so.

>> Currently we are not evaluating HSC0 at all, I am not sure about its
>> function.
>
> HSC0 returns HGER (Hybrid GFX Event Reason), a number that can be read  
> when an Hybrid GFX event is notified (for example when the physical  
> switch change its position), telling userspace what triggered that event.

So HSC0 returns similar data to HSC1.

> It also provides other informations, do you know their meaning?

No idea!

>
> Method (HSC1, 0, Serialized)
> {
>     Store (Zero, Local0)
>     If (AVIL)			<-- ??
>     { ... }
>
>     If (^^H8EC.SWPS)		<-- switch position
>     { ... }
>
>     If (LEqual (HGAP, One))	<-- Hyb GFX A? Presence?
>     { ... }
>
>     If (LEqual (HGAP, 0x02))	<-- Hyb GFX A? Presence?
>     { ... }
>
>     If (HDME)		<-- HDMI Exit? HDMI routing capability?
>     { ... }

That would be nice!!!! I am indeed searching for a way to activate HDMI
output on my laptop, but didn't manage till now.

>     If (DVIE)
>     { ... }
>
>     If (^^H8EC.ATSW)		<-- switch set to auto
>     { ... }

Can you provide me with a patch so that I can test these things? I mean
I can simply switch the position and read values from /sys files.

>
>> Furthermore, the path of HSC1 is different on different modules
>> 	_SB.PCI0.LPC.SNC.HSC1	(VGN)
>> and
>> 	_SB.PCI0.LPCB.SNC.HSC1	(VPC)
>
> This is not relevant, we just call the SN07 method from the SNC device,  
> so don't care about it.

Hmm, in the patch relative to your to turn on/off the nvidia device
we use this paths. If you are interested I can send you the patch
I am currently working with, relative to 3.0.0-rc7+your patch
.

> If I'm not wrong the video driver should take care of calling _DSM and  
> other multiplexing methods (MXDS, MXMX and so on), is it right?

No. It seems that the video driver (intel) does *not* turn off the 
nvidia card. I I load it without special action I get an active
nvidia card that eats battery time.

> We need to find out more about methods HSC1, HSC2, HSC3, HSC4, but I  
> don't own the hardware.

I am fine with testing many things ... but my actual knowledge of ACPI
internals is minimal, sorry.

Best wishes

Norbert
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