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From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
To: joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
Cc: Ben Jencks <ben@bjencks.net>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:08:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51750C11.7060600@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1366597102.23707.92.camel@linux-s257.site>

On 04/22/2013 10:18 AM, joeyli wrote:
> 於 五,2013-04-19 於 11:15 +0800,Aaron Lu 提到:
>> On 04/03/2013 03:04 PM, Ben Jencks wrote:
>>> On 04/02/2013 09:00 AM, Seth Forshee wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:08:23PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I really wondered, how Windows handled this, it should have the same
>>>>> problem, unless they are not using the acpi video interface?
>>>>
>>>> I can only guess.
>>>>
>>>> I think I remember reading that Windows 8 does smooth backlight
>>>> transitions, so it may well hit every intermediate brightness value.
>>>> Lenovo could also be supplying a driver which rounds values to the
>>>> nearest working value or uses some other interface or something else.
>>>
>>> Just checked; Windows 8 doesn't use the ACPI interface. It seems to have
>>> access to at least 100 distinct brightness levels.
>>
>> I just came across a document on win8 backlight control, it has words
>> like this:
>> "
>> In Windows 8, the primary mechanism by which a platform should expose
>> its display brightness control functionality is the Windows Display
>> Driver Model (WDDM) miniport Device Driver Interfaces (DDI).
>> "
>> So looks like, on win8, ACPI interface is not used for these systems.
>>
>> The link for the document is here:
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/windows/hardware/jj159305
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
> 
> Per WDDM document, OEM/ODM should keep the ACPI methods (_BQL, _BCM,
> _BQC) available for compliant to the OS that doesn't support WDDM, e.g.
> XP, Vista.

Thanks for the information, so this suggests that acpi interface is
mostly used for pre-win8 OSes?(does win7 support WDDM?)

One interesting thing is, if they do not support acpi interface, why
they even bother to expose this interface in acpi table?

-Aaron
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-22 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-11 16:21 [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 17:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:06   ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 19:09     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:31       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-02-12  3:05         ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:32       ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:55         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 21:04           ` Ben Jencks
2013-02-13 21:49             ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:46           ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:54             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 22:04               ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:38           ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39             ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPICA: Add interface for getting latest Windows version requested via _OSI Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 2/5] acpi_video: Avoid unnecessary conversions between backlight levels and indexes Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 3/5] acpi_video: Add workaround for broken Windows 8 backlight implementations Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:44                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 12:35                   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 13:46                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 14:02                       ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 14:27                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 4/5] acpi_video: Disable use of _BQC when value doesn't match those set through _BCM Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 5/5] acpi_video: Don't handle ACPI brightness notifications by default Seth Forshee
2013-08-02  5:55                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-02 14:41                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-02 14:52                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03  0:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03  9:46                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 11:23                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03 12:10                             ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 22:07                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04  1:08                                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-18 21:25             ` [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-04-02  5:18               ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-02  9:15                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 11:23                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-02 13:44                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 19:08                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-19 12:24               ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-20 22:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21  2:29                   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-21 15:46                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-02-13 21:09       ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-01  1:53 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-01 13:03   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02  9:08     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 13:00       ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02 13:43         ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03  7:04         ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-03  7:27           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03 13:45             ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:39               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-19  3:15           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-20 22:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21 11:07               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 12:11                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 21:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22  9:39                   ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 11:51                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22 12:11                       ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:06                         ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 13:40                           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:56                             ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 14:07                               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 15:11                                 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22  2:18             ` joeyli
2013-04-22 10:08               ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2013-04-22 12:00                 ` joeyli

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