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From: "Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
To: Dirk Brandewie <dirk.brandewie-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	boinc_dev-C9EgComYM8RUAgJt6FLh2g@public.gmane.org,
	Linux Kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: 3.9.0 + CONFIG_X86_INTEL_PSTATE=y -> ThinkPad T420 with i5 lost ACPI functionality
Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 09:57:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5184BF82.4070700@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51842F6F.1050005-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 05/03/2013 11:43 PM, Dirk Brandewie wrote:
> On 05/03/2013 02:26 PM, Toralf Förster wrote:
>> On 05/03/2013 11:10 PM, Dirk Brandewie wrote:
>>>
>>> ignore_nice_load is a feature of the ondemand governor.
>>> The intel_pstate driver is seeing the load presented by the BOINC client
>>> and is adjusting the pstate accordingly.
>>
>> Is the intel_pstate driver a choice for a notebook and friends where a
>> grid software is running as a low-prio back ground job ?
>>
> 
> Probably not.

Hhm.

The kernel menuconfig says :

 This driver provides a P state for Intel core processors
 The driver implements an internal governor and will become
 the scaling driver and governor for Sandy bridge processors.


What shall a company like IBM with a lot of notebook installation running BOINC
in the back ground process (World Community Grid) do - what's the consequence for
those installations if they will have that a processor ?

In the past (few years ago and related to the ondemand governor IIRC) there were
already a longer discussion about the "nice -n 19" topic and the result was
to support it.

/me Cc:'ing boinc devs, the topic might be interesting for them too.


>> Because the CPU will be running mostly at high(er) frequency - which
>> always results in a high temperature and short battery time.
>>
> 
> It would be better IMHO if the client software limited the resources
> it uses when the system is not on wall power but that is a seperate
> discussion :-)
> 
> --Dirk
> 
> 


-- 
MfG/Sincerely
Toralf Förster
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-04  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-03 16:55 3.9.0 + CONFIG_X86_INTEL_PSTATE=y -> ThinkPad T420 with i5 lost ACPI functionality Toralf Förster
2013-05-03 19:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-03 21:10   ` Dirk Brandewie
2013-05-03 21:26     ` Toralf Förster
2013-05-03 21:43       ` Dirk Brandewie
     [not found]         ` <51842F6F.1050005-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-04  7:57           ` Toralf Förster [this message]
2013-05-10 13:10             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-13 16:43   ` Dirk Brandewie
2013-05-13 17:20     ` Toralf Förster
2013-05-13 17:57       ` Dirk Brandewie
2013-05-13 19:13         ` Toralf Förster
2013-05-13 19:24           ` Dirk Brandewie

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