From: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC part1 PATCH 1/7] ACPI: Make ACPI core running without PCI on ARM64
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:53:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A68220.30306@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131209165548.GE19163@arm.com>
On 2013-12-10 0:55, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 04:35:04PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Monday 09 December 2013, Hanjun Guo wrote:
>>> On 2013-12-9 19:50, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 04:12:24AM +0000, Hanjun Guo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the concern here is that ACPI is only for server platform or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since ACPI has lots of content related to power management, I think ACPI
>>>>> can be used for mobile devices and other platform too, not only for ARM
>>>>> servers, and with this patch, we can support both requirement.
>>>>
>>>> 'Can be used' is one thing, will it really be used is another? I don't
>>>> think so, it was (well, is) difficult enough to make the transition to
>>>> FDT, I don't see how ACPI would solve the current issues.
>>
>> Exactly. In particular we don't want people to get the wrong idea about
>> where we are heading, so making it possible to use this code on embedded
>> systems for me is a reason *not* to take the patch.
>
> I agree.
>
>>>> I see ACPI as a server distro requirement and there are indeed benefits
>>>> in abstracting the hardware behind standard description, AML. Of course,
>>>> this would work even better with probe-able buses like PCIe and I'm
>>>> pretty sure this would be the case on high-end servers. But even if a
>>>> server distro like RHEL supports a SoC without PCIe, I would expect them
>>>> to only provide a single binary Image with CONFIG_PCI enabled.
>>>>
>>>> This patch is small enough and allows ACPI build with !CONFIG_PCI for
>>>> the time being but longer term I would expect such SoCs without PCI to
>>>> be able to run on a kernel with CONFIG_PCI enabled.
>>>
>>> Yes, we will support PCI in ACPI in the long run, and we just make PCI
>>> optional for ACPI in this patch.
>>
>> Do you mean there is a problem running your code with PCI /enabled/ at the
>> moment? If so, I'd suggest fixing that instead since you will have to fix
>> it anyway.
>
> CONFIG_PCI does not exist on arm64 yet (we have some internal patches
> but may not be ready to be posted before the holidays; they try to share
> code with other archs, so more discussions before merging). We could add
> CONFIG_PCI and some dummy functions on arm64 for development (not to be
> upstreamed) or Hanjun could continue to use the current patch before we
> get PCI working.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will continue to use the current patch, and
I will rework or rebase this one when PCI is working.
Hanjun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 2:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-03 16:36 [RFC part1 PATCH 0/7] Make ACPI core running on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 1/7] ACPI: Make ACPI core running without PCI " Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-04 14:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 22:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-06 15:04 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Tomasz Nowicki
2013-12-06 17:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 4:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 11:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 13:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 16:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 16:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 17:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 18:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-16 20:51 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-17 11:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-19 11:30 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-19 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-19 15:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-20 19:55 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 2:53 ` Hanjun Guo [this message]
2013-12-09 17:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-10 1:52 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-10 3:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-11 3:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-11 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 9:56 ` Linus Walleij
2013-12-09 23:34 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-03 16:47 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-04 14:15 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 2/7] ARM64 : Add dummy asm/cpu.h Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 17:13 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-04 15:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 17:59 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 3/7] ACPI / processor_core: Rework _PDC related stuff to make it more arch-independent Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-04 14:11 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:51 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 17:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-04 14:16 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 4/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce the skeleton of _PDC related for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:53 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-04 14:17 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 17:12 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-04 14:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 5/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce arm_core.c and its related head file Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 18:03 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-04 15:48 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 5:46 ` Zheng, Lv
2013-12-04 15:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 19:47 ` Al Stone
2013-12-05 3:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 13:51 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 20:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 14:09 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-05 14:27 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 6/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce lowlevel suspend function Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 7/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 10:10 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-04 15:55 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 22:25 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 0/7] Make ACPI core running on ARM64 Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-06 13:58 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-08 2:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-08 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 9:45 ` Linus Walleij
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