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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	Elliott@hp.com, samer.el-haj-mahmoud@hp.com,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>,
	werner@suse.com, trenn@suse.de, JBeulich@suse.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com,
	x86@kernel.org,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:20:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52B3C5A6.3070805@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1387511650.3539.4294.camel@linux-s257.site>

On 12/19/2013 07:54 PM, joeyli wrote:
> Hi hpa, 
> 
> 於 四,2013-12-19 於 06:38 -0800,H. Peter Anvin 提到:
>> Where did you find a platform with "no CMOS" set and a PNP RTC? I find the expect behavior in that case to be quite ambiguous and it is not at all clear to me that what you have here is the right thing.
> 
> Actually there doesn't have the box both with "No CMOS" and PNP device. 
> I choice to totally block rtc-cmos driver when "No CMOS RTC" because the
> definition in ACPI spec:
> 
> CMOS RTC Not Present
> 
> If set, indicates that the CMOS RTC is either not implemented, or
> does not exist at the legacy addresses. OSPM uses the Control
> Method Time and Alarm Namespace device instead.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> It suggest us using ACPI TAD interface when this flag present. But, I
> agreed your point for this is ambiguous due to ACPI spec didn't clear
> define the relationship between PNP0B0x.
> 
> Maybe we can do more detail check in cmos_init when "No CMOS RTC" set:
>  + check if have ACPI TAD device, then block rtc-cmos
>  + check if no ACPI TAD device, but have PNP0B0x, then we use PNP0b0x.
> 

I think the only thing we should use that bit for is to inhibit the
last-resort probing of I/O ports 0x70-0x73... if at all.

	-hpa


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-20  4:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-19  7:43 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME Lee, Chun-Yi
     [not found] ` <1387439053-8711-1-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19  7:44   ` [PATCH 01/14] rtc-efi: fix decrease day twice when computing year days Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19  7:44   ` [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present Lee, Chun-Yi
     [not found]     ` <1387439053-8711-4-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 14:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <6fc9a2f9-eae7-4588-a092-f338053ec96a-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20  3:54           ` joeyli
2013-12-20  4:20             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-12-19 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]   ` <52B309EB.90300-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 16:04     ` Alessandro Zummo
2013-12-20  4:05     ` joeyli
     [not found]       ` <1387512357.3539.4317.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20  4:22         ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]           ` <52B3C5F0.1060303-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20  5:38             ` joeyli
     [not found]               ` <1387517916.3539.4446.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:10                 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <52B4B242.5010002-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:25                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:45                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-20 21:43                       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                         ` <52B4BA0A.1030902-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:50                           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                             ` <20131220215056.GA29501-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 22:18                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                 ` <3476450.BMEcId2Lgj-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-21 12:21                                   ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-12  0:30                                     ` [RFT][PATCH] ACPI / init: Run acpi_early_init() before efi_enter_virtual_mode() (was: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME) Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                       ` <2530951.HFPX8MI38t-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-12  9:06                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-14  2:04                                           ` Toshi Kani
     [not found]                                             ` <1389665096.1792.271.camel-RbGIw1UOYPVo/CpIj0byZw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-14 16:25                                               ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-12 11:05                                         ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-17 12:20                                           ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-14  4:09                                       ` joeyli
     [not found]                                         ` <1389672548.24105.252.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-14 16:50                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 18:00                                           ` [RFT][PATCH] ACPI / init: Run acpi_early_init() before efi_enter_virtual_mode() H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-14 20:32                                             ` Toshi Kani
     [not found]                                               ` <1389731547.1792.296.camel-RbGIw1UOYPVo/CpIj0byZw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-15  7:18                                                 ` joeyli
     [not found]                       ` <2787644.ytU7M33B4r-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-21  2:43                         ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME joeyli
2013-12-20 10:53             ` Thomas Renninger
2013-12-20 22:15               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 15:16             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 16:57               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 16:58                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 20:29                   ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                     ` <a049daea-a713-4d06-b35f-61f3bec06ba9-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 20:32                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 21:14                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:12               ` H. Peter Anvin
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2013-12-19  7:51 Lee, Chun-Yi
     [not found] ` <1387439515-8926-1-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19  7:51   ` [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present Lee, Chun-Yi

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