From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/14] rtc-efi: register rtc-efi device when EFI enabled
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:51:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52B4F421.2000403@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1387589042.3539.4901.camel@linux-s257.site>
On 12/20/2013 05:24 PM, joeyli wrote:
> 於 五,2013-12-20 於 13:04 -0800,H. Peter Anvin 提到:
>>
>> Actually, it doesn't have to reprogram the clock ... it just needs to
>> know if another OS has already done so. All Linux needs to do is to be
>> able to derive UTC from whatever the RTC is set to and to be able to
>> keep it consistent.
>>
>
> It's dependent on a right boot initial priority of distribution.
-ENOPARSE
> Here have a discussion of adjusting system clock by TZ (from ACPI or
> UEFI):
> Discussion on BIOS/CMOS/UEFI clock in local time
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg07639.html
>
> and,
> from Ted Ts'o in the mail thread
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/8/195
>
> If kernel use the TZ field from ACPI TAD or EFI to adjust system
> clock when booting, then it can avoid buggy distributions adjust
> system clock AFTER e2fsck is run.
>
> Using ACPI TAD should after DSDT parsing in subsystem initial stage,
> so I choice EFI time services before we can move DSDT parser to
> start_kernel().
>
Yes, of course. That is irrelevant to needing to reprogram the clock,
though.
My argument is very simple: if we have to rely on EFI, we can get the
offset in the boot stub before ExitBootServices(), and then simply never
change it. That way we still pick up if another operating system has
changed it, and it will still reflect the proper UTC time.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-21 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-19 7:51 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [PATCH 01/14] rtc-efi: fix decrease day twice when computing year days Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387439515-8926-1-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] ACPI: Add ACPI 5.0 Time and Alarm Device driver Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387439515-8926-5-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 15:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52B30F43.1060306-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 5:41 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1387518099.3539.4453.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 0:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52C3647B.7000708-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-06 8:58 ` joeyli
2014-01-07 5:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-07 10:40 ` joeyli
2014-01-07 16:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-08 14:59 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1389193142.3539.6123.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-08 17:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52CD9139.2070302-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-09 3:47 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1389239259.24105.2.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-09 4:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-09 12:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-02 8:09 ` Lan Tianyu
2014-01-06 9:20 ` joeyli
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] rtc: Add RTC driver of ACPI Time and Alarm Device Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] rtc-efi: register rtc-efi device when EFI enabled Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 14:09 ` Matt Fleming
2013-12-20 4:24 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1387513491.3539.4345.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 4:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 10:37 ` Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20131220103755.GA14784-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 15:14 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52B4B0ED.7030600-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-21 1:24 ` joeyli
2013-12-21 1:51 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-12-21 15:34 ` joeyli
2013-12-20 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] rtc-efi: add GMTOFF support to rtc_efi Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387439515-8926-8-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 15:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-21 3:56 ` joeyli
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] rtc-efi: set uie_unsupported for indicate rtc-efi doesn't support UIE mode Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] efi: move functions of access efi time to header file for sharing Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] rtc: improve and move week day computing function to rtc header Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] rtc: switch to get/set rtc time to efi functions if CMOS RTC Not Present git set Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] efi: adjust system time base on timezone from EFI time services Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] Documentation/RTC: add document of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME driver Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [TEST PATCH 14/14] acpi: add early parameter to set CMOS RTC Not Present bit for testing Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387448416-11672-1-git-send-email-jlee@suse.com>
[not found] ` <1387448416-11672-1-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 10:49 ` [PATCH 02/14] x86-64/efi: Use EFI to deal with platform wall clock (again) Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20131219104908.GE3145-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 13:32 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1387459939.3539.4092.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 11:29 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-23 23:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
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