From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Julian Wollrath <jwollrath@web.de>, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Regression]: Changing brightness does not work with v3.16-rc4
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:35:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C63955.2090905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53C63431.7020205@redhat.com>
Hi,
On 07/16/2014 10:13 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
<snip>
> I realize that this does not fix Julian's problem. As I see it there are
> 2 separate problems here:
>
> 1) backlight control issues on Windows 8 laptops, this is what we are
> trying to solve with video.use_native_backlight=1 (and without using
> any acpi_osi override)
>
> 2) Some component in the stack needs to responds to backlight key-presses
> and actually use the backlight control to change the backlight setting,
> normally this is done by gnome / kde / unity / xfce, but what about users
> not running those? For some of those users brightness_switch_enabled=1
> has been making things work for them, but that only works if acpi-video
> controls the backlight, which it does not do everywhere, and which we
> want to get away from for Windows 8 laptops since it is just too broken
> there.
>
> Note that 2. is not limited to Windows 8 laptops / acpi-video in any
> way, we've 23 non acpi-video backlight drivers under drivers/platform/x86/
> alone + the native gpu backlight drivers. So what we really need is a
> solution for any laptop not using acpi-video for backlight control and
> not running one of the big 4 desktop environments.
>
> Note that we pretty much have the same problem for any acpi event,
> power button pressed, lid closed, etc. are all "key press" type
> events typically handles by the desktop enviroment (e.g. we don't
> automatically suspend on lid-close, we just tell userspace). And we already
> have a solution for these type of events when running a desktop environment
> which handles them, these get handled by acpid. So to me it seems that
s/handles/does not handle/ small but important typo.
> the obvious (and one and only right) way to fix this is to teach acpid
> to deal with brightness key-presses.
>
> I'm willing to write a patch for acpid to implement this, and then
> Julian's setup should just work without needing any special kernel
> commandline options.
>
> Julian would that be an acceptable solution for you, and would you be
> willing to test such a patch ?
Regards,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-16 8:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-12 16:06 [Regression]: Changing brightness does not work with v3.16-rc4 Julian Wollrath
2014-07-12 16:24 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 18:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 18:34 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 19:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 19:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 18:56 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 19:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-15 6:06 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-15 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-15 14:00 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-15 14:05 ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-15 14:45 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16 0:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 6:29 ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16 7:19 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16 8:13 ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16 8:30 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16 8:35 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2014-07-16 11:50 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-16 11:52 ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-15 21:38 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-16 2:36 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16 11:36 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 2:06 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-14 12:42 ` Julian Wollrath
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