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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Julian Wollrath <jwollrath@web.de>
Cc: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Regression]: Changing brightness does not work with v3.16-rc4
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:52:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C6678F.90905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140716135035.21106dfe@saldaea>

Hi,

On 07/16/2014 01:50 PM, Julian Wollrath wrote:
> Am Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:35:33 +0200
> schrieb Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 07/16/2014 10:13 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I realize that this does not fix Julian's problem. As I see it
>>> there are 2 separate problems here:
>>>
>>> 1) backlight control issues on Windows 8 laptops, this is what we
>>> are trying to solve with video.use_native_backlight=1 (and without
>>> using any acpi_osi override)
>>>
>>> 2) Some component in the stack needs to responds to backlight
>>> key-presses and actually use the backlight control to change the
>>> backlight setting, normally this is done by gnome / kde / unity /
>>> xfce, but what about users not running those? For some of those
>>> users brightness_switch_enabled=1 has been making things work for
>>> them, but that only works if acpi-video controls the backlight,
>>> which it does not do everywhere, and which we want to get away from
>>> for Windows 8 laptops since it is just too broken there.
>>>
>>> Note that 2. is not limited to Windows 8 laptops / acpi-video in any
>>> way, we've 23 non acpi-video backlight drivers under
>>> drivers/platform/x86/ alone + the native gpu backlight drivers. So
>>> what we really need is a solution for any laptop not using
>>> acpi-video for backlight control and not running one of the big 4
>>> desktop environments.
>>>
>>> Note that we pretty much have the same problem for any acpi event,
>>> power button pressed, lid closed, etc. are all "key press" type
>>> events typically handles by the desktop enviroment (e.g. we don't
>>> automatically suspend on lid-close, we just tell userspace). And we
>>> already have a solution for these type of events when running a
>>> desktop environment which handles them, these get handled by acpid.
>>> So to me it seems that
>>
>> s/handles/does not handle/  small but important typo.
>>
>>> the obvious (and one and only right) way to fix this is to teach
>>> acpid to deal with brightness key-presses.
>>>
>>> I'm willing to write a patch for acpid to implement this, and then
>>> Julian's setup should just work without needing any special kernel
>>> commandline options.
>>>
>>> Julian would that be an acceptable solution for you, and would you
>>> be willing to test such a patch ?
> Yes, of course that would be an acceptable solution for me and yes, I
> would be willing to test such a patch.

Ok, great. I've putten this (pretty high) on my todo list, I'll let you
know when I've something ready to test.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-16 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-12 16:06 [Regression]: Changing brightness does not work with v3.16-rc4 Julian Wollrath
2014-07-12 16:24 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 18:21   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 18:34     ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 19:02       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 19:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-14 18:56           ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14 19:17             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-15  6:06               ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-15 12:27                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-15 14:00                   ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-15 14:05                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-15 14:45                     ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16  0:43                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16  6:29                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16  7:19                           ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16  8:13                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16  8:30                               ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16  8:35                               ` Hans de Goede
2014-07-16 11:50                                 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-16 11:52                                   ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2014-07-15 21:38                 ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-16  2:36             ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-16 11:36               ` Julian Wollrath
2014-07-14  2:06 ` Aaron Lu
2014-07-14 12:42   ` Julian Wollrath

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